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Date:      Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:28:48 +0400
From:      Eygene Ryabinkin <rea-fbsd@codelabs.ru>
To:        Mel <fbsd.hackers@rachie.is-a-geek.net>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, bug-followup@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ports/126853: ports-mgmt/portaudit: speed up audit of installed packages
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Mel, good day.

Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:24:54AM +0200, Mel wrote:
> On Monday 06 October 2008 07:23:37 Eygene Ryabinkin wrote:
> > But downloading the INDEX file from the central server seemed to be the
> > best way, since it almost always gives one the latest port versions, so
> > I had implemented this in a first place.
>=20
> I've been following this, but I don't agree that (port|pkg_)audit should =
do=20
> this, from the very perspective you're writing this program from:

The download is done not by the portaudit itself, but by the helper
script, portaudit-checknew.

> On Sunday 28 September 2008 11:49:18 Eygene Ryabinkin wrote:
> > 4. I feel that it is Unix-way to do the things: create small utilities
> >    that do their (small) job in a proper fashion.
>=20
> Instead, it can provide installed-pkgname<seperator>pkgorigin output. The=
n,=20
> any utility can check whether a new version is available, using what ever=
=20
> source it finds relevant.
>
> For example, it is completely irrelevant if a new version is available on=
 the=20
> FreeBSD servers, when your machine uses a buildserver in a local network.=
 For=20
> those machines it's relevant whether their build server has a new version=
 and=20
> one can automatically upgrade if one so desires.
> Similarly, if your /usr/ports is ahead of the FreeBSD's INDEX.bz2, you're=
=20
> again reporting false information.

I hear you, but it seems to me that I should just equip
portaudit-checknew with the other sources of a new ports information and
provide tunables for their location (on-disk path, URL, etc).  I am
planning to do this, but first I want to know if these patches will be
viable for the project: feeding these into the /dev/null or just using
them locally, but equipping with a lot of functionality, is not what I
really want ;))

> It's also quite trivial to provide this availibility information in a dai=
ly=20
> security script, for the "majority of cases"

Didn't get it, sorry.  Could you, please, elaborate a bit?

> and it's better to have tunables=20
> like _use_remote_portindex, _use_portsdir=3D/bigdisk/usr/ports in a scrip=
t.

Yes, it was what I had talked about above in this mail.

Thanks for the input!
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