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On 16 Feb 2020, at 12:38, Jerry wrote: > The largest document I have tried using with a current version of MS > Word is only approximately 400 pages. Many times I will write > documents via LaTeX and create a PDF file. Unfortunately, because so > much of my work has to be shared among several users, and LaTeX does > not offer a suitable way of having a multitude of users edit a=20 > document > for review, with each edit being kept isolated from the final > document, I usually have to write the document with MS Word. I guess=20 > it > all depends on your audience. It's a tangent to this tangent, but depending on that audience it might=20 be worth at least a glance at , which is a=20 collaborative hosted LaTeX environment. Overleaf handles the=20 collaboration and change-tracking part, and means that collaborators=20 don't have to have LaTeX installed locally. They have to have some=20 awareness of LaTeX syntax; but if they're contributing text rather than=20 structure that may not be a huge problem. I've only used Overleaf very lightly myself, but I have colleagues in=20 highly collaborative environments who swear by it, using both the free=20 and paid-for plans (both personal and site-licence accounts, in the=20 latter case). Best wishes, Norman --=20 Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK