From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 25 17:28:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CEF37B401 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD49143EC2 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:28:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <20021226012846001003lq2ke>; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 01:28:46 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBQ1SNmG036925; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:28:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gBQ1SHSV036922; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:28:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Roman Neuhauser Cc: Kurt Bigler , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: email addresses used for lists [was: L0phtcrack] References: <79of793f6v.f79@localhost.localdomain> <20021225225521.GT690@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 25 Dec 2002 17:28:16 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20021225225521.GT690@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Message-ID: <451y4536xb.y45@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roman Neuhauser writes: > It's just semantics, really. I'm not sure what that means. No, seriously, my dictionary says "study or science of the meaning of language forms", but does that include the meaning of single words or only about the meaning imparted by sentence structure, or something else? Of course this is about the meaning of words. Specifically, about the meanings of "domain" and "hostname" (in the context of DNS), keeping in mind that many key words in our industry have no well-agreed-upon single definition for all purposes and these are likely to be among them. "Domain" means something like "a set of nodes in the DNS tree structure", where nodes have associated info about hosts and domains. "Hostname" sometimes seems to mean the string returned by the "hostname" command/function (being distinguished from hostname aliases), but I think it's fair in the DNS context to use "a domain name which has an assigned IP". (In the DNS, "host" doesn't mean "computer", of course. Hosts are whatever have assigned IP addresses, except maybe networks. Does DNS even know about networks? I can't think why it should.) > Let's say you have a host with IP address 1.2.3.4, and a name > "fubar.org" (A RR) that resolves to 1.2.3.4. Is "fubar.org" a domain > or a hostname? It's a hostname and a domain name (and a domain, loosely speaking). > Let's say you have names "fubar.org", "alpha.fubar.org", and > "beta.fubar.org". There's no A RR for "fubar.org", but > "alpha.fubar.org" resolves to 1.2.3.4, and "beta.fubar.org" resolves > to 1.2.3.5. What is what here? They are all domain names and, except for "fubar.org", hostnames. (No host, no hostname.) > Let's say you have names "fubar.org", "alpha.fubar.org", and > "beta.fubar.org". All three names resolve to 1.2.3.4. What is what > here? All are domain names and all are hostnames. You ask easy questions. :-) -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message