From owner-freebsd-security Mon Sep 3 1:15: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from guard.ing.nl (guard.ing.nl [194.178.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C2E37B405 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ING-mailhub; id KAA14681; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:16:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from somewhere by smtpxd content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Possible New Security Tool For FreeBSD, Need Your Help. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:17:20 +0200 Message-ID: <98829DC07ECECD47893074C4D525EFC3115698@citsnl007.europe.intranet> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Possible New Security Tool For FreeBSD, Need Your Help. Thread-Index: AcEyZ/SDPKw2RMesR3uTJCDcETL+pAB6LftA From: "Carroll, D. (Danny)" To: "Alfred Perlstein" Cc: Importance: normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2001 08:17:13.0509 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5FAB550:01C13450] Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah but Obfuscation PLUS good security does not hurt, in fact it helps. Just so long as you don't *rely* on it. :-----Original Message----- :From: Alfred Perlstein [mailto:bright@mu.org] :Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:53 PM :To: Rob Simmons :Cc: Eric Anderson; Not Going to Tell You; security@freebsd.org :Subject: Re: Possible New Security Tool For FreeBSD, Need Your Help. : : :* Rob Simmons [010831 16:51] wrote: :> Why not require the incoming packets to be spoofed from a=20 :preordained set :> of IP addresses to obfuscate it even more. : :Obfuscation isn't security, it is the illusion of it. : :--=20 :-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] :'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," :start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message : -----------------------------------------------------------------=0A= ATTENTION:=0A= The information in this electronic mail message is private and=0A= confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you=0A= receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that=0A= any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this=0A= message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by=0A= reply transmission and delete the message without copying or=0A= opening it.=0A= =0A= Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known.=0A= If this message contains password-protected attachments, the=0A= files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain.=0A= Always scan attachments before opening them.=0A= ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message