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From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Handbook x-config-quick-start is missing information to configure
 HAL and DBUS
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On Fri, 3 Apr 2015, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Kaio Rafael wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am following Chapter 6. The X Window System [1] to install Xorg into my box.
>>
>> I have installed the xorg package with "pkg install xorg" as the
>> handbook explains, but HAL service procedure is giving error:
>>
>> '
>> service hald start
>> hald does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup
>> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d)
>> '
>>
>> I believe you should add a note for those users that install binary
>> xorg (using pkg) should also add 'HAL' using 'pkg'
>
> I believe that HAL is no longer strictly needed for a functional X
> desktop, these days, so a different edit to the handbook may be more
> appropriate.

Yes.  xorg-server does not use HAL by default any more.  I'm tempted to 
just remove the HAL/DBUS part of the quick start.  Really, the whole 
Xorg installation section needs a rewrite.  I have an outline for that, 
but not the motivation.