From owner-freebsd-current Thu Feb 27 12:14:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8975937B401; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp4.server.rpi.edu (smtp4.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924F643FB1; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:14:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp4.server.rpi.edu (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1RKEoqX024614; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:14:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030227112755.GC39346@sunbay.com> References: <20030227042706.A67762@FreeBSD.org> <20030227052926.G28626-100000@iguana.reptiles.org> <20030227112755.GC39346@sunbay.com> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:14:48 -0500 To: Ruslan Ermilov , Geoffrey From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Any ideas why we can't even boot a i386 ? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:27 PM +0200 2/27/03, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >: RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v >: Working file: GENERIC >: description: >: ---------------------------- >: revision 1.296 >: date: 2001/01/14 10:11:10; author: jhb; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2 >: >: Remove I386_CPU from GENERIC. Support for the 386 seriously >: pessimizes performance on other x86 processors. Custom kernels >: can still be built that will run on the 386. While there was good reason for removing i386 from GENERIC, that does mean that someone "just wanting to try freebsd" on a i386 may very well give up before realizing that it does (hopefully!) work. For official release CDs, should we also provide a GENERIC_I386 kernel, so the person can get up-and-running without having to first build a new kernel? Or will they just run into other problems once they get past the kernel, due to everything else in the system being compiled for i486 & newer? I think we (developers) get a little too used to having multiple machines around, and assume that everyone who might want to test freebsd will have some hardware that works for the GENERIC kernel, and which they can use to first do a buildkernel for the hardware they really want to test freebsd on. I'm thinking maybe the 5.x release CD's should include: GENERIC GENERIC +SMP GENERIC +VMWARE-friendly settings GENERIC for i386 Would that add too much extra work for a 5.x release? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message