From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 14 11:57:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B05516A474 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doimaesalong@charter.net) Received: from mxsf06.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf06.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B402A43D45 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:57:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doimaesalong@charter.net) Received: from mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.136]) by mxsf06.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5EBvbKc032589 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:57:37 -0400 Received: from 24-107-126-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (HELO amd) ([24.107.126.13]) by mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2006 07:57:36 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.06,131,1149480000"; d="scan'208"; a="286104503:sNHT43783134" Message-ID: <003401c68faa$08d029b0$6500a8c0@amd> From: "doi maesalong" To: "Olivier Nicole" , References: <200606140934.k5E9YPqm035393@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:59:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: kitt1411@hotmail.com, pirat@access.inet.co.th, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD users of Thailand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:57:39 -0000 Dear Mr Nicole Thanks for the response. It is very nice that someone from the local academic institution is interested in this particular problem. We willl need all the helps we can get. I am not sure if you see the underlying problems the new users in Thailand encountered. >From the thai webboard ( such as in www.thaibsd.com. This site is run by one of the staff at teacher college in Pitsanulok,Thailand - though it's domain name ends with dot com , this is not a commercial site. it was for the sake of convenience to get the site up quickly. Another site is http://www.thai-aec.org/forum/ ) , we noticed that the newbies faces a lot of problems during installation. Few commonly encountered problems are : 1 CD error ( burned from download iso ) 2 incomplete software ( again error from either during download or during burning CD) . I encountered this problem myself inspite of correct MD5. So common occuring such that I resorted to obtaining the CD by direct ordering from FreeBSD Mall. And yet , I got error from the purchased disk. Perhaps this might be due to my old hardware. 3 Another very common complaint from the webboard is the failure during porting. This is a very common indeed. And this, in my opiniion having been in the same situation before, is very discouraging for the new users indeed. And as you might know, compounding with the slow modem speed most user had in Thailand,this will certainly discourage the new users to persue the FreeBSD route. I do not think this is FreeBSD problem but rather the unfamiliarity of the FreeBSD and porting system on the new users part ( perhaps they do not have latest port ). 4 the root of all problem is our lack goof background in english. What we have in our plan is to have an autorun cd filled with OS & necessary application softwares. Everything is in the CD so that users do not have to download ( only one option to install the software for users to select ie, from CD). One last important thing is to have instruction to the user in Thai language ( we will definitely need someone to help on this ie. writing command ( in shell script or ???) to automate the whole process, since most of us have no experience or know how.) This approach should have the new users up and running quickly without bandwidth problem or missing dependency files. Thanks in advance for the help. We definitely need your help. Regards, Somner Srivisal ps. I am currently living in the US and having been in contact with Khun presert regarding this matter. This proves that "The world is Flat" ( by Thomas Friedman ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivier Nicole" To: Cc: ; ; Khun Prasert, > > Good initiative, very good idea. > > Well I have more interest in the server use of FreeBSD and obviously I > cannot read Thai, but if I can help... > > Best regards, > > Olivier > Pathumthani > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3 - Release Date: 6/7/2006 > >