From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 7 11:42:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D18437B42C for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:42:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f47IgPR27680; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:42:25 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Rik van Riel Cc: Matt Dillon , Sheldon Hearn , Kris Kennaway , Dennis Glatting , freebsd-stable@frebsd.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pgm to kill 4.3 via vm Message-ID: <20010507114225.V18676@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010507112458.U18676@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:29:48PM -0300 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Rik van Riel [010507 11:30] wrote: > > How about first analysing the problem in detail and > trying to fix it after we understand the problem ? > > The current stage is that I've pretty much figured out > the problem and know why the code in FreeBSD and NetBSD > doesn't currently work (while it would have worked in > the original Mach VM). > > A next stage is getting some smart people together > and coming up with a thorough solution. > > "Patch first, think later" is definately not the > attitude I'm used to seeing in the FreeBSD world, > no matter how often you and phk have shouted this at > me yesterday ;) No, you're mistaking the Linux methodology with FreeBSD's. Testing? What's that? If it compiles, it is good, if it boots up, it is perfect. -- Linus Torvalds In FreeBSD we submit a patch perhaps after having an N-way conversation (*) about the problem being addressed. The patch is then reviewed by several people who familiar with the subsystems in question. If you were to submit a patch in the next hour to address this it would be a matter of several days of load testing and review before it would be accepted. I'm are awaiting your patch, and I would be glad to assist you with it if you have any questions about the vm API. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [alfred@freebsd.org] Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message