From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 17 18:54:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E13737B403 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 84141 invoked by uid 100); 18 Jul 2001 00:54:38 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15188.56910.631404.477056@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:54:38 -0500 To: James Greenhalgh Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARRGH Netscape stinks! In-Reply-To: <76438007@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Greenhalgh types: > Personally, I find it FAR less obtrusive when an application stays within the > bounds I gave it rather than spawning more and more windows. It's nice to be > able to visit a site that requests 100% screen width and have the window > within the opera X window resize only logically (becoming scrollable), and > it's nice to have popups pop up in a small logical window too, rather than the > browser arrogantly assuming it's the most important application and > splattering itself all over my xterms ;-) (like Netscape and Mozilla) If I > put opera in the top left of the screen using say, half the screen width, it's > nice to know that it will NEVER touch the rest of my desktop, for any reason. The problem isn't the browser, it's the *sites* arrogantly assuming they are the most important thing on my desktop, and asking my browser to open new windows or expand the window to 100% of the desktop. Disabling JavaScript helps a lot, as well as making the Netscape both more secure and less prone to crashes. > Perhaps my original description wasn't clear? At any rate - it's all personal > preference, you can *demand* whatever you like - but we're all stuck using > whatever is closest. Yup, it's all personal preference. Unfortunately, many web site designers aren't aware that such things exist and depend on your browser - and system - being configured just like theirs. Simply running Unix on a 1600x1200 display is enough to break some sites. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message