From owner-cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 12 16:22:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C2416A4CF for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:22:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F6D43D3F for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:22:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i7CGJaiF029623; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:19:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <85B47D61-EBE6-11D8-887A-00039312D914@fillmore-labs.com> References: <85B47D61-EBE6-11D8-887A-00039312D914@fillmore-labs.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:19:35 -0400 To: Oliver Eikemeier , Garrett Wollman From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules ports/shells Makefile pkg-installpatch-bashline.c patch-builtins_shopt.def patch-config-bot.h ... X-BeenThere: cvs-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:22:28 -0000 At 12:33 AM +0200 8/12/04, Oliver Eikemeier wrote: >Garrett Wollman wrote: > >><> said: >> >>>a good idea, just do it. I'm fine with deleting bash1, but I >>>think we should keep bash2 around a little longer, unfortunately >>>the bugs in the .0 release seem not to be purely hypothetical >> >>I would miss bash1. (Not that I'm volunteering to maintain it >>or anything.) > >Any reasons for that? Which means, do you actually use it? It >conflicts with the other bash ports, and the last release was 1996. It is useful if you have a lot of bash1 scripts and rc files, and you don't have time "right now" to figure out why various obscure things will stop working. I will admit that I do not use it any more, but I was happily using it up to about 2002. I would like to thank the people who kept it around that long. It might be nice to have it install as 'bash1' instead of 'bash', though, just to avoid the conflicts. In a different message on Aug 11th, Doug Barton wrote: >someone else wrote: >> >>The jury is still out on if 'bash2' needs to exist for a while. >>We should probably have a plain 'bash' port that is the latest >>version. > >I disagree with this, and I share David's frustration that this >action was rushed into without proper discussion. ... > >Finally, as a devoted bash2 user, I don't plan to switch to bash3 >until it's proven stable. I'm also sure that there are numerous >FreeBSD sites who will continue to need a bash2 port for the >forseeable future. ... I strongly agree with Doug's comments here. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu