From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Thu Jun 4 14:33:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0232F5FB4 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 14:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x72f.google.com (mail-qk1-x72f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49d7Z40t7Dz3yls for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 14:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x72f.google.com with SMTP id 205so6195617qkg.3 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 07:33:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=j/oFHNrLpn0u8Ru5b/OOMONDe2QtHzurDwSEwvzMR6U=; b=CwljBk/oggFLVWfBz/hmoLv9kEW1C8E6G/4naNIPM/6Y3euZn3BXkkkpRxhZHAegRI G21VYnN0o/HFZokD+e3QY0JLfkKN8fN5rYLYU3fTrppEiDZr7JQ/jIYjuvA8qPOSVTwd 7pL94+ZofC1Rqu9P21PE8cp3dpggqO2GV0Rq3bcbIFkDIDvfBj2CL/8R4FwX+tV0q+5r 4AHBIHXkrZGWzYfUtdNGrJK1pKmEtpAIf659dqnL2rblEF6s9fdkBckAWJ68blMySESv QZJgwWEGA1WnJcpNUWcdNReuvSs8sDewP80w8hZPY3QvV/Frc15X86d75kurDT4XwhhP 48uQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=j/oFHNrLpn0u8Ru5b/OOMONDe2QtHzurDwSEwvzMR6U=; b=QEDFU+hpq/5YVcJVv2vKtcvIy+I5Ryuzn5hbUzBnlg+/Y/WoiSQa0c20ztVOf2nudO 1f85g0sq0iUadIkh6epm9SNx1y39ZVXxGi4pOA5QoTINhDO2ZtlodcIx4m2DzYLnHJ8u F3VFpiyGxFyxp/573GpXx39MP9/3KRrC5NcvaJMaqkn04Wbd5y4Ti3JwM51kwCuxdUrW GMcgbQqMKRg59Sh6mXgGsc9e01OiKqlujnbd4LEHxO4j0fmLwIBkVZKDriQXlVx00tTM 8F26oy5cIOjhjY8PWgdLjYGK+BVfg3F1ZnjxAgdPyVtiquhdS+PVrFtx+r1pXauXtXfi EAMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5324mwHyg/osYqIVuNHhLgcuzCAn1DrSLmmxWnOqrL3rpGslXlUb ovzPyC0dkTVZtofFNYPYyPJdsquPy2aR7ATz2anxTg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyyHESCTog0+UyJB8290D8SVPP33PXrb5/BwhYJdBftrHkxYCUPhpYhsBimQsYj56gXEjWXhlmyLrYjURoo4HU= X-Received: by 2002:a37:5c47:: with SMTP id q68mr4818073qkb.495.1591281227057; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 07:33:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202006041346.054Dk2KE026273@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <202006041346.054Dk2KE026273@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 08:33:36 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r361775 - in head/sys: dts/arm64/overlays modules/dtb/rpi To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Pedro Giffuni , Oleksandr Tymoshenko , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49d7Z40t7Dz3yls X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=CwljBk/o; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72f) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.003]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.980]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[svn-src-head@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.995]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72f:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 14:33:48 -0000 I look forward to your working with the contributors of all the other files to get them corrected. Then we could consider the last three once we come up with what's more proper than "The FreeBSD Project" for those remaining cases. Warner On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:46 AM Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:27 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:04 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > > > freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 8:10 PM Pedro Giffuni > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 03/06/2020 19:59, Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: > > > > > > > > Rodney W. Grimes (freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) wrote: > > > > > > > >> [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > > > > > > > >>> Author: gonzo > > > > > > > >>> Date: Wed Jun 3 22:18:15 2020 > > > > > > > >>> New Revision: 361775 > > > > > > > >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/361775 > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Log: > > > > > > > >>> Add spigen overlay for Raspberry Pi 4 > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Submitted by: gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Added: > > > > > > > >>> head/sys/dts/arm64/overlays/spigen-rpi4.dtso > (contents, > > > props > > > > > > > changed) > > > > > > > >>> Modified: > > > > > > > >>> head/sys/modules/dtb/rpi/Makefile > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Added: head/sys/dts/arm64/overlays/spigen-rpi4.dtso > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================================== > > > > > > > >>> --- /dev/null 00:00:00 1970 (empty, because file is > > > newly > > > > > > > added) > > > > > > > >>> +++ head/sys/dts/arm64/overlays/spigen-rpi4.dtso Wed > Jun 3 > > > > > > > 22:18:15 2020 (r361775) > > > > > > > >>> @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ > > > > > > > >>> +/* $FreeBSD$ */ > > > > > > > >> This file needs some form of copyright/license. > > > > > > > > Whom should I put as a copyright folder, The FreeBSD Project > or > > > the > > > > > > > > person who submitted the patch? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The person that submitted the patch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it can be copyrighted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that the FreeBSD Project is not an entity and cannot hold > > > > > > > copyrights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True, but the FreeBSD Project can be the name in the copyright > line. > > > It > > > > > is > > > > > > the eponymous author of the FreeBSD collection. > > > > > > > > > > Thats a very slippery slope, though US copyright law allows > pseudonyms > > > > > as the copyright holder, I know of nothing that allows eponymous > names. > > > > > And I do not believe pseudonyms are support in other jurisdiction. > > > > > > > > > > https://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl101.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not. Legally, there's no real difference from a pseudonym and > an > > > > eponymous name. How could there be? > > > > > > Based on what? eponymous appears no place in the copyright law, so > > > I shall strongly disagree with you on that point. > > > > > > > An eponym is a type of pseudonym. It's not a nickname, nor an abbreviated > > form of a company. > > And the usage "The FreeBSD Project" does not meet the definition of > either: > > eponym > A person after whom a discovery, invention, place, etc., is named or > thought to be named. > > pseudonym > A fictitious name, especially one used by an author. > > My keypoint is "A/AN PERSON". > > > > I should have added that the project decided, years ago, to only use it > > > for > > > > the collection copyright holder in the /COPYRIGHT file. All other > files > > > > > > It appears as if it is used many other places, as my find/grep showed. > > > > > > > Yes. And apart from the 3 files I identified, the others should be > fixed. I > > did this the last time we did a sweep maybe in the late 90s / early 2000s > > based on advice from an IP attorney who specialized in open source. For > > various reasons, it's fine in the collection copyright context, but we > > don't want to have it anywhere else if we can help it. > > I find it very hard to believe that using anything in 3 copyrights is > somehow valid if it can not be used in all copyrights. That, again, > is just a slippery slope. > > Further, let me speculate, more "Free" advice? Free legal advice is > worth exactly what you paid for it, nothing. Especially if you do not > have the advice in writting. > > > Warner > > > > > > > > require an actual copyright holder at the time of submission. The > project > > > > generally doesn't track successors in interest, though there are > > > exceptions > > > > when the copyright holder themselves make the change. > > > > > > > > Warner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The Foundation can but unless they sponsored it, that > > > > > > > usually involves paperwork). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yup. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pedro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Rod Grimes > > > > > rgrimes@freebsd.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rod Grimes > > > rgrimes@freebsd.org > > > > > -- > Rod Grimes > rgrimes@freebsd.org >