From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 02:35:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E3416A400 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 02:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2010213C487 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 02:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1394845ugh for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:35:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lYCTE0GY9ZmyjS8ns9b5AUUGbLnrtUZFcNfLeXOcrjNCjAYpLi3yEQd4CUbxGH3IDWYQuj7MfFP3bpGgIH/s9oxNdyBKoN6zGOfg0DqgOH1Alr//lwTE+Ofq1WJarfpG3Q4uxz0PhmQhWx1UNUXoR0SgTYA0pbl5hD2Zh3KAHm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jbz0fHiDgY+rl8G3uUuSl4HNDSzg32FoQkuePvdkzqqg0yKIzpyF1OOYxBVr82vsjwjUatIB0mh82NF/QaQzFHGyEe3eByEjwBdWe9b89jbp+pHRaHy11mSFr59rXlTWyJZXN8K21+WtG/6mr61fAON1qUwLA2bs/o/3xtLuS5g= Received: by 10.66.225.1 with SMTP id x1mr4188783ugg.1175999748339; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.104.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e9sm17043631muf.2007.04.07.19.35.46; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4618556C.7030103@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 04:37:32 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <46180A09.5020003@gmail.com> <46180799.5070400@emailrob.com> <4618366C.60200@gmail.com> <46183A02.4030006@emailrob.com> In-Reply-To: <46183A02.4030006@emailrob.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what can i do with a 486? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 02:35:50 -0000 spellberg_robert wrote: > ok - first, you have what des said and what i said back. > that covers most of this [ must've crossed in the mail ]. yeah i received his mail later > all i'm doing is removing anything i don't recognize > [ i am a minimalist at heart ], > but my needs aren't necessarily the same as yours. > > as for 4.3 compatibility, i don't remember just what it is; > but, i think it's a workaround for a bug in 4.3bsd, > where fixing the bug would break subsequently written apps and > there are too many written apps still in use out there to fix > [ or some such ]. > it says to keep it; i've never argued. > > i don't remember access control lists or threads being around > back during 486 days. > > fix the earliest occurring error first as > subsequent errors may be spurious > [ i've known this since fortran in the 1970's, > but i still forget on occasion ]. > > the first time i did this was maybe five years ago. > it was a lot of trial and error. > once i got most of what i didn't have or need > out of the way and it worked, > i left it alone and smiled quietly to myself. > > you've pretty much taken out everything; > i really don't think i can tell you much else. > > i --can-- tell you this, however. > about half of the planet is in the middle of observing something major. > if you are in that half, have a happy. > if not, well - any excuse for a party, dude! > > [ hmmm, i wonder if scotch is kosher for pesach. > i gave up drinking, so i don't remember. ] > > rob > > > > ps --- > > i was about to send this when i had a thought. > i make absolutely --no-- claim that this is a good idea, > but, to me, it's plausible. > my thinking is that there is less code. > on the other hand, > it may introduce a different set of unpleasantries. > > instead of trying to put 6.x on the 486, > what if you backed off and tried something younger ? > looking at my shelf, i see that > my latest version of the versions is 3.5.1, 4.11, 5.5 and 6.2 > [ i also have some 2's, but ... ]. > as an example, if 3.5.1 works, try 4.11. > if that works, try 5.5 [ iirc, 5.0 and 5.1 are bogus ]. > if that works, maybe it's good enough. > if 3.5.1 works and 4.11 doesn't work, > split the difference and try 4.6. > you get the idea. > > like i said, it's a thought. I'll try.