From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 18:24:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB0B16A4CE; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-119-53-122.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.119.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4F843D3F; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:24:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CDF9566C78; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:24:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:24:54 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Nate Lawson Message-ID: <20040121022454.GA28078@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200401192127.i0JLRBL3041817@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040120175334.W3279@gamplex.bde.org> <20040120015009.W39477@odysseus.silby.com> <20040120111923.T96919@root.org> <20040121004238.GP47639@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040120164435.I98793@root.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040120164435.I98793@root.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha support.s src/sys/i386/i386 swtch.s src/sys/kern kern_shutdown.c src/sys/sys systm.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:24:57 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 05:04:12PM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote: > I would have gotten 100x more value from making options DDB the default in > GENERIC (at least until we branch -stable) and having all page faults > generate a backtrace. This is a 1 line change that would save hours, not > minutes, of roundtrip email. Look at reports of panics in the > freebsd-current@ archives and see how many result in a request for a > backtrace. Yes, please! GNATS is also full of useless PRs that tie up committer resources in trying to extract meaningful debugging from the submitter. This would be a huge step towards reducing the number of bugs in 5.x. Kris --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFADeL2Wry0BWjoQKURAo0hAJ9CiedQD3xcv13saeLvob0BhgXP0QCg8Yb1 phvNDoYDywB4wk4dYzdRtWw= =3SSQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL--