From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 13:45:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CB8E1E for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 13:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward14.mail.yandex.net (forward14.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B593122C for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 13:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.67]) by forward14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A68871981C67; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 17:45:50 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 784817E0403; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 17:45:50 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 87.249.28.58.tel.ru (87.249.28.58.tel.ru [87.249.28.58]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id joFKbwZ6-joFaLUdb; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 17:45:50 +0400 Message-ID: <513B3D0E.2030603@passap.ru> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 17:45:50 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130113 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: [cfr] patch to clean up old Linux ports References: <513A0C04.8090907@freebsd.org> <20130309121625.00004279@unknown> <513B2CB3.1020405@passap.ru> <20130309141403.0000340e@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20130309141403.0000340e@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: emulation@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 13:45:52 -0000 09.03.2013 17:14, Alexander Leidinger пишет: > On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 16:36:03 +0400 > Boris Samorodov wrote: >> 09.03.2013 15:16, Alexander Leidinger пишет: >> >>> The EoL announcement made it clear that ports need to be marked >>> broken if they don't work on 7, so it means the generic ports >>> framework has no hard "doesn't work" (yet). >> >> As I understand the announcement, those "ports should be marked >> broken", etc. should be done at RELENG_7_EOL tag. Otherwise there is >> no sense at EOL itself. > > BROKEN is used to announce as soon as possible that it will not work, > whereas e.g. a compile error on 7 could manifest it self after a long > time of compiling something. > > Think also about those people which don't know that 7 is EoL, but still > run portsnap. At one point they may want to install a port and then it > fails. If there's no message what's wrong (the system needs to be > updated), they may spend a lot of time to search the cause of the > problem. With a little helpful message they know directly. I agree that a message (well, BROKEN or something else) should be used to inform a user. But that may be done via one check/file. Be it at bsd.ports.mk, bsd.linux.mk, etc. Why should HEAD track individual ports for 7.x after EOL? And when should 7.x actually be cleaned fro the portstree? There is no any other date for 7.x. OK, for those who continue use 7.x RELENG_7_EOL has been created. And those ports committers who are interested in ports for 7.x may use portstree with that particular tag. As well as those users who continue to use FreeBSD 7.x. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve