From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 17 21:45:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11D216A468 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-4.eunet.yu (smtpclu-4.eunet.yu [194.247.192.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC6A13C44C for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-210-102.eunet.yu [213.198.210.102]) by smtpclu-4.eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5HLjdZH029058; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:45:42 +0200 Message-Id: <200706172145.l5HLjdZH029058@smtpclu-4.eunet.yu> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:45:47 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <4675A5FD.7010400@u.washington.edu> References: <20070617175349.9debf85a.coolzone@it.dk> <46755FE4.3000204@u.washington.edu> <200706172001.l5HK17sU030505@smtpclu-6.eunet.yu> <20070617201128.GC5036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200706172058.l5HKwYMs000717@smtpclu-4.eunet.yu> <4675A5FD.7010400@u.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.2 (GTK+ 2.10.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,URIBL_BLACK X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 3.0 X-AVAS-Spam-Level: xxxxxx Cc: Jerry McAllister , Rico Secada , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:45:50 -0000 On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:22:05 -0700 Garrett Cooper wrote: > >>> Garrett Cooper wrote: > >>>> 1. All windows disks must be primary if you're going to boot off > >>>> of them -- sorry, it's a stupid requirement that M$ setup a long > >>>> time > >>>> =20 > >>> Nikola Lecic wrote: > >>> What do you mean? I think he asked about slave (primary I > >>> suppose). I ask this because ... >=20 > Garrett Cooper wrote: > Now that I think about it I don't think that there's anything wrong > as long as the boot order doesn't change. This is simple to modify > with SATA/SCSI, but PATA is statically set based on the jumper pins. >=20 > Once you change the boot order, things change in the OS in terms of > how the registry mapped entries, programs found their way around, > etc, and it breaks everything. Ok, clear, that's why I asked. > Nikola Lecic wrote:=20 > >>> ... "windows" can normally boot from slave position without > >>> bootloader, (in some cases with help of 'boot.ini' and > >>> ntldr/ntdetect.com, but AFAIK only if booting is impossible even > >>> when ad1 (D) is selected in BIOS as the first boot choice). >=20 > Garrett Cooper wrote: =20 > Yes. Drive lettering gets tricky though, based on what partitions > were active when stuff was installed, etc, because Nikola's first ^^^^^^^ Rico's (you're answering my question, disk is Rico's :)) > NTFS/FAT formatted partition could have been C:, not D:, etc. *sighs > and shakes head at bad partitioner in 2k/xp/2k3 installer*. > > Nikola Lecic wrote: > > I said that it's _possible_ to keep the second disk stay untouched > > (as it remained after xp installation). I replied because (1)+(3) of > > Garrett's e-mail implied (maybe, that's why I asked him a question) > > that xp cannot start from the second disk without _separate_ > > bootloader installed _there_ from the outside, which is not true. > > > > My statement doesn't say anything about contents of the first disk > > and doesn't negate any of the options you proposed. > > > > I did add two things: > > > > (a) a proposition to check ad1 separately -- doesn't hurt; > > > > (b) a possible help if xp cannot orientate itself. > > > > Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 > > =20 > > Garrett Cooper wrote: > The reasoning used in this document is the basis for my previous=20 > statement: >=20 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/112019 >=20 > So as long as the boot ordering or disk ordering of the primary=20 > (Windows) disk doesn't change, things should be groovy. I assumed that Rico just added primary slave as such, without changing. Once upon a time I experienced that xp even then refused to boot (in similar situation) without ntdetect.com. Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87