From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 9 11:44:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C7716A4CE for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from imgate01.cybertime.net (imgate01.cybertime.net [216.117.206.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D3843D1D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:44:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hostmaster@cybertime.net) Received: from cybertime.net (mail.cybertime.net [216.117.209.200]) 7FE6CD711D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from techoffice [216.117.206.15] by cybertime.net (SMTPD32-8.05) id A32E4EA000AC; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:44:46 -0800 Message-ID: <003b01c3ef46$eb809e90$0fce75d8@cybertime.net> From: "Cybertime Hostmaster" To: References: <200402091924.i19JO83L000244@mail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:57:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: PicoBSD diskless embedded 'where to start' X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 19:44:47 -0000 > For the archives/record, the following statement in this > thread reflects the notion that PicoBSD is a "distribution", > in this case the remark indicates that it's thought to > be a distribution based on FreeBSD 4.3: > > "> ... Pico shows ...built on a more modern kernel... > > ...the 4.3 for Pico, and m0n0 presently uses the 4.9." You clipped out the clarifying parts. I was talking about the link, the FAQ, not Pico itself. The problem with much of the Pico documentation I have looked at so far is it deals with older kernel issues. When the kernel is newer, those issues may no longer exist, or may be addressed in a new manner. The advantage of a project that works with the present kernel is that any issues that are discussed take this into account. This does not make m0n0 specifically better than Pico in any way, shape or form. It just makes it easier for someone stepping in to BSD for the first time to get a grasp of the present issues, settings, etc. For example, a FAQ for an older BSD miniaturizing project might reference using kernel build options to control the number of processes, etc. In contrast, a newer FAQ for a newer kernel would very likely talk about /boot/loader.conf. That is just one example, and perhaps not the best example. The third option I talked about, miniBSD, is a better example. He shows some differences between the 4.x and 5.x kernel that are specific to things commonly done when making a smaller FreeBSD. As for the issues you mentioned with Pico itself, I was not talking about them because I was not talking about Pico. I was only discussing the link, the FAQ. --Eric