Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 23:11:13 -0400 From: William Dudley <wfdudley@gmail.com> To: Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: sympa mailing list manager Message-ID: <CAFsnNZKvpnUWLA0PVnc4zJiHUzDt0TL3xGDd_QQF40rMiQ8LXQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAFMGiz98EZ6P6c%2BuLu5T7ddBSHH4MF8BcZxv2YaELb34qSvycA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAFMGiz98EZ6P6c%2BuLu5T7ddBSHH4MF8BcZxv2YaELb34qSvycA@mail.gmail.com>
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--0000000000006168d30601837089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom et al, I run about 10 mailing lists on my FreeBSD 13.1 box. I used to run Mailman 2, but it depends on Python 2.7, which EOL'd over a year ago, so I stopped using it. On reflection, this may have been an over-reaction (see below). So I tried Sympa, and found it difficult to get working, and fragile to keep working. I don't remember the details because it was at least a year ago. I tore it out and moved to mlmmj. The base package mlmmj is very stripped down, with no web interface to administer it. However, there's this: https://codeberg.org/bapt/mlmmj-webview I didn't try that, because I didn't find it in time. Instead, I wrote my own tools to admin mlmmj in Perl (cgi scripts, so a administered via the web). I'd recommend that you install Python 2.7, despite it being EOL, and then install and run Mailman 2, which is fabulous. It's stable, has a zillion configuration parameters, all controllable via a well done web interface. I don't know if you can install Python 2.7 from a pkg, but you can always download the source and build it from that. Oh - one more thing: if the list you want to administer has less than 100 members, you can host it for free on groups.io. I moved many of my mailing lists to groups.io to get them off my server. The only drawback with groups.io is that it is "invite only", so you have to send all the prospective members an invite, and they have to opt in. This can be difficult if the list members are old farts who don't do email and/or are afraid of the computer. Good luck with it. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 12:33=E2=80=AFPM Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com= > wrote: > I would like to have an email list manager like Sympa and wonder if > the Sympa port provides nearly a turnkey solution ready to add lists. > > Note I have been a Debian user for many years but have essentially no > BSD experience. If the Sympa port is a good start, I will probably > attempt a single-use server on Digital Ocean or Vultr. > > Thanks. > > Cheers! > > -Tom > > --0000000000006168d30601837089 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Tom et al,<div><br></div><div>I run about 10 mailing lists= on my FreeBSD 13.1 box.<div><br></div><div>I used to run Mailman 2, but it= depends on Python 2.7, which EOL'd over a year ago,</div><div>so I sto= pped using it.=C2=A0 On reflection, this may have been an over-reaction (se= e below).</div><div><br></div><div>So I tried Sympa, and found it difficult= to get working, and fragile to keep working.</div><div>I don't remembe= r the details because it was at least a year ago.=C2=A0 I tore it out</div>= <div>and moved to mlmmj.=C2=A0 The base package mlmmj is very stripped down= , with</div><div>no web interface to administer it.=C2=A0 However, there= 9;s this:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://codeberg.org/bapt/mlm= mj-webview">https://codeberg.org/bapt/mlmmj-webview</a></div><div><br></div= ><div>I didn't try that, because I didn't find it in time.=C2=A0 In= stead, I wrote my own tools to admin mlmmj</div><div>in Perl (cgi scripts, = so a administered via the web).</div><div><br></div><div>I'd recommend = that you install Python 2.7, despite it being EOL, and then install</div><d= iv>and run Mailman 2, which is fabulous.=C2=A0 It's stable, has a zilli= on configuration=C2=A0parameters,</div><div>all controllable via a well don= e web interface.=C2=A0 I don't know if you can install Python 2.7</div>= <div>from a pkg, but you can always download the source and build it from t= hat.</div><div><br></div><div>Oh - one more thing: if the list you want to = administer has less than 100 members, you can</div><div>host it for free on= <a href=3D"http://groups.io">groups.io</a>.=C2=A0 I moved many of my maili= ng lists to <a href=3D"http://groups.io">groups.io</a>; to get them off</div= ><div>my server.=C2=A0 The only drawback with <a href=3D"http://groups.io">= groups.io</a> is that it is "invite only", so you have to send</d= iv><div>all the prospective members an invite, and they have to opt in.=C2= =A0 This can be difficult if</div><div>the list members are old farts who d= on't do email and/or are afraid of the computer.</div><div><br></div><d= iv>Good luck with it.</div><div><br></div><div>Bill Dudley</div><div><br cl= ear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail= =3D"gmail_signature">This email is free of malware because I run Linux.</di= v></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt= r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 12:33=E2=80=AFPM Tom Browde= r <<a href=3D"mailto:tom.browder@gmail.com">tom.browder@gmail.com</a>>= ; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px= 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I would= like to have an email list manager like Sympa and wonder if<br> the Sympa port provides nearly a turnkey solution ready to add lists.<br> <br> Note I have been a Debian user for many years but have essentially no<br> BSD experience. If the Sympa port is a good start, I will probably<br> attempt a single-use server on Digital Ocean or Vultr.<br> <br> Thanks.<br> <br> Cheers!<br> <br> -Tom<br> <br> </blockquote></div> --0000000000006168d30601837089--
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