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DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nimnet.asn.au:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N ------ZDWLZUN6YA748GINRC7X2EL24XJAGH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2 October 2022 6:07:48 am AEDT, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 30/09/2022 17:55, Ian Smith wrote: > > On 30 September 2022 5:25:39 pm AEST, David > Christensen wrote: > > > > > =E2=80=A6 Having a -dvd1 ISO on a USB flash drive could be useful w= hen=20 > > > installing without an Internet connection=2E =E2=80=A6 > > > > It should be=2E It was broken on 12=2E3R and presumably before, due = to > a bad symlink on the dvd1=2Eiso, and needing so far three patches to > bsdconfig, if hoping to use that=2E > > > > Once fixed, it's a useful dialog(1) based interface to the included > pkg repo, reminiscent of sysinstall in its heyday, if you like KDE 5 > or Gnome on top of your Xorg=2E > > > > For much too long a story on getting that working, see > > > https://forums=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/threads/installing-freebsd-12-3-from-dvd= 1-usb-without-network=2E84838/ > > > > I've yet to find out if it's been fixed on 13, and I'm still > _slightly_ hopeful of getting some committer help in fixing it for > 12=2E4, which enters code slush in a week=2E >=20 > FreeBSD bugs: >=20 > 195705 =E2=80=93 Installer issues / bsdconfig > >=20 > 201485 =E2=80=93 bsdconfig no pkg database found > >=20 > 266743 =E2=80=93 Potentially misleading information about -dvd1=2Eiso i= n > release=20 > documentation and the FreeBSD Handbook > Thanks Graham, much appreciated=2E I've scanned those and reset my long-lost Bugzilla password and will try g= etting into that properly in the next day or so=2E First off I'll send you some file listings off-list from the 11=2E3-R and = 12=2E3-R dvd1/packages, seeking a 13=2E1-R list in return, so I can be sure= what if anything has been changed, before wading in over my head <&^}=3D cheers, Ian ------ZDWLZUN6YA748GINRC7X2EL24XJAGH Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 2 October 2022 6:07:48 am AEDT, Grah= am Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd=2Eorg> wrote:
On 30/09/2022 17:55, Ian Smith wrote: 
On 30 September 2022 5:25:39 =
pm AEST, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske=2Ecom> wrot=
e:

> =E2=80=A6 Having a -dvd1 ISO on a USB flash drive could be useful whe=
n=20
> installing without an Internet connection=2E =E2=80=A6

It should be=2E  It was broken on 12=2E3R and presumably before, due to a =
bad symlink on the dvd1=2Eiso, and needing so far three patches to bsdconfi=
g, if hoping to use that=2E

Once fixed, it's a useful dialog(1) based interface to the included pkg re=
po, reminiscent of sysinstall in its heyday, if you like KDE 5 or Gnome on =
top of your Xorg=2E

For much too long a story on getting that working, see
htt=
ps://forums=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/threads/installing-freebsd-12-3-from-dvd1-usb-w=
ithout-network=2E84838/

I've yet to find out if it's been fixed on 13, and I'm still _slightly_ ho=
peful of getting some committer help in fixing it for 12=2E4, which enters =
code slush in a week=2E

FreeBSD bugs:

195705 =E2=80=93 Installer issues / bsdconfig
<https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/b= ugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D195705>

201485 =E2=80=93 bsdconfig no pkg database found
<https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/b= ugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D201485>

266743 =E2=80=93 Potentially misleading information about -dvd1=2Ei= so in release documentation and the FreeBSD Handbook
<https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/b= ugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D266743>

=20

Thanks Graham, much appreciated=2E
I've scanned those and reset my long-lost Bugzilla password and will t= ry getting into that properly in the next day or so=2E

First off I'l= l send you some file listings off-list from the 11=2E3-R and 12=2E3-R dvd1/= packages, seeking a 13=2E1-R list in return, so I can be sure what if anyth= ing has been changed, before wading in over my head <&^}=3D

= cheers, Ian ------ZDWLZUN6YA748GINRC7X2EL24XJAGH--