From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11: 1: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD9F37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAKJ0o20068975; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:00:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:00:50 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <006901c171c0$a9f5c3c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > The likelihood of a hardware problem is far too low to justify such > extreme measures. Problems like this are almost invariably software > bugs. The problem I see is that you really haven't tried enough to make such a determination. As Ceri noted earlier in this thread, you're making sweeping generalizations on the basis of your limited experience, such as condemning KDE because it crashed on you. I find your arguments most uncompelling, because my primary desktop machine right here running KDE has an uptime in excess of 6 months. I use it for Netscape, gaim, mail, news, a couple GUI games, and a ton of terminal windows. In all of this time, I restarted KDE _once_ for an upgrade. Netscape, being the crappy piece of software it is, crashes regularly, but those crashes have no effect on KDE or the rest of the system, unlike Windows, where one or more application crashes will take down the whole system. For me, KDE runs rock solid. Contrast this to my Windows NT work desktop, where I had to pre-emptively reboot at least twice weekly so NT doesn't crap out on me in the middle of whatever work I'm doing, and I was essentially running the same set of applications, Netscape, AIM, and a bunch of ssh windows, but no games. Now, I sympathize with your poor experience on the UNIX GUI, but you might tone down the sweeping generalizations, as your own experience hardly proves to be the rule. Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message