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From: Andrey Chernov <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
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Subject: Re: Recent TTYDEF_LFLAG default change
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On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 12:20:32PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >Well, use TTYDEF_LFLAG_NOECHO I suggest for that case and leave 
> >user-visible default untouched to not break userland programs.
> 
> How many pieces of software know about TTYDEF_* outside our sourcecode ?
> 
> Most of it would be bogus I think, software should record the current
> state and restore that, not mangle it with defaults.

Some tty/pty-emulators can (in spirit of screen). It is not ours, it is 
common BSD thing. Better to not make surprises and harden porter's job 
here, really, without a reason. Inside kernel you can do anything you want 
using TTYDEF_LFLAG_NOECHO.

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