From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 00:59:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60408106564A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7778FC0A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q8A0x4KK026870; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:59:05 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:59:03 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20120910075903.10ec8351@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <504D3002.5040308@dougbarton.us> References: <20120908234659.GA10489@server.rulingia.com> <504BD9B5.20001@shatow.net> <504BE020.1070300@FreeBSD.org> <504BE12A.50907@shatow.net> <9A528A3C-40F1-4599-ACAB-EF306033A4F2@bsdimp.com> <86pq5vtj42.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20120910070331.3fe2900c@X220.ovitrap.com> <504D3002.5040308@dougbarton.us> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Eitan Adler , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:59:11 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:10:42 -0700 Doug Barton wrote: > On 9/9/2012 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > you ignore here the problem the typical user will face when > > upgrading. > > If a user has managed to get all the way to the point where they are > upgrading to 10.x (which won't be for another year or two) without > having switched over to subversion then they can install CVS from > ports. > > This change simply reflects what reality is going to look like when > 10.0-RELEASE comes out. allow me to copy from the handbook: 'The FreeBSD svn mirror network is still in its early days, and will likely change. Do not count on this list of mirrors being static. In particular, the SSL certificates of the servers will likely change at some point.' What is the reason not to wait for the infrastructure to be ready before turning a knob off? The moment you take out the knob off you also take out all CVS mirros. Erich