From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 10 10:08:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA05E16A401 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 10:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from pinnacle.akherb.com (60-105-237-24.gci.net [24.237.105.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CD743D7D for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 10:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id C588E5D45; Wed, 10 May 2006 02:08:40 -0800 (AKDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pinnacle.akherb.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.241.106] (7-137-58-66.gci.net [66.58.137.7]) by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E0B5CD5 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 02:08:39 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Alaska Paradise To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 02:08:37 -0800 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4901456.I9crSk6eIv"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605100208.38485.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:08:55 -0000 --nextPart4901456.I9crSk6eIv Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:05, you wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Beech Rintoul [mailto:beech@alaskaparadise.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:41 AM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Cc: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC; Ted Mittelstaedt > >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo > > > > > >That's all well and good, but I for one don't plan to replace > >the "powered by" > >beastie logo on any of my sites with that sex-toy. It would be > >interesting to > >see how many webmasters agree with me. > > Webmasters have it easy, you get plenty of resolution on the Web > and as many colors as you want for free, and you can print as many > copies as you want for nothing. > > The real litmus test will be if they come out with stickers that > people have to pay for, to see if those last as a product, and > when companies print up sales literature that they have to pay > for printing costs on, whether they choose the sex toy or Beastie. > > My guess is it will be a long, long time before you see CDROMs > from anybody that have deleted Beastie and have the sex toy. > > The one good thing about all this nonsense is that 5 years from > now when there are still hundreds of websites, marketing materials, > presentations, CDROMs, and such that prominently feature Beastie, > it will pretty much pull the fangs of the argument that "we need > to replace Beastie as a logo because as a devil he's causing too > many people to not use FreeBSD" which was the main argument that > triggered the entire contest and it's sex toy result. > > Ted The most interesting time I've had with beastie was setting up servers and = a=20 website for a Baptist org here in Alaska. I put beastie on the site thinkin= g=20 it would never be approved. They were seeking donations and were very=20 sensitive about the site's image. Not only did the clergy approve the site= =20 with the "powered by" logo, they thought beastie was "cute".=20 Even after several irate emails about displaying the "devil" on a church si= te,=20 the logo remained. It was decided that several narrow minded people did not= =20 warrant removing it. I didn't even have to explain what a daemon is. Several months later the site won an award at one of their national=20 conventions. The plaque featured a screen shot of the front page complete=20 with beastie! If people are refraining from using FreeBSD because of beastie (which I don= 't=20 believe), they really need to just grow up. If the Baptists don't have any= =20 problem with him, I can't imagine anyone else objecting. 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