Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:56:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: importing kyua into the base system Message-ID: <202003171856.02HIuTxt098921@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <20200317183230.GB2618@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>
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> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:14:02AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > I'll be importing kyua and it's dependency lutok into the base system > > > this week. Integrating it into the FreeBSD build system will make it > > > available by default which is especially valuable on emerging > > > architectures were we aren't building packages yet (e.g. riscv). > > > > Why isnt there a preceding discussion of this on -arch? > > The lack of kyua in base (meaning the inability to run the test suite > without package infrastructure) has been discussed as a pain point for > ages. I recall no such discsussion in the past 3 years, where was this dicussion at? > The only real objection to it before (IIRC) was that it would > mean importing lua, but we've got lua in base now (as flua) so it's time > to import it. And the import of lua *was* discussed. > I suppose I could have added a multi-day delay discussion delay which > would increase my odds of making errors in the port from CheriBSD, but > I'm pretty skeptical we'd come to any conclusion other than the > encouragement I got when I mentioned this on Slack as I started working on > it. How is a dicussion going to increase your error rate? That is a very strange state of affairs. Slack is not the official channel for project discussion, and should never be a place decisions are made as it excludes a large majority of people who just do not have time to sit in slack and watch chats. I am not objecting to importing it, I am objecting to short circuiting normal process. > -- Brooks -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org
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