From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 6 07:02:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8306D09 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com (mail-wg0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 834161D13 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id a1so2237748wgh.5 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:02:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=/3tiZjm9AHPbtcmW3AlNoLXlMBEUrXOn/xFT3AEOfZg=; b=VJpqBR0XiMVWLds25KFF1hueDj/5AjtJl35GLrAnZr4Ic5F2SXQdbTUmg4b51yXN9c kGj8++lT2KHetDmWhL9bKUOc9q9RhPDqLm0CxVibNwCNALyJJmnjZ79xmii+Lebi9UPv w96778v1aWSjTBW6NkKUvCsqL3sXVt4U7umuEYdxy7G9KEDMQsva1GgGJ9p4tGDPGJ9Q CZbbXGuoZ8kFuWWt9OxQ2qr6jN1I00FWhF9poAMTlcdmSxqJIjT7MxGq8vgaeVjjrEgu oQr1mnfYqFKWPu9uG/B/ZtIp2HDpEH4dxM2ogYxy4rvcxku2S01v1nK25khZBni1H/i+ RSFg== X-Received: by 10.194.23.201 with SMTP id o9mr45050wjf.67.1388991728392; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:02:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: villa.alberto@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.10.73 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 23:01:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Alberto Villa Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:01:48 +0300 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Wg2Davj-WKpLL34_WHR0p2hZMzY Message-ID: Subject: Re: hal, ntfs, and 10.0-RC3 To: Kevin Oberman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD GNOME Users X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:02:11 -0000 2014/1/6 Kevin Oberman : > Since I updated to 10.0-RC3 (from 9), hald no longer works with my ntfs > partitions. I can mount them manually with ntfs-3g, but when not mounted, > hal does not see them at all. > > Might this be fall-out of the removal of ntfs (read-only) support? I have > not looked through the hald sources to see how it detects these slices. I > do find it interesting that mounting one NTFS file system causes all of the > other ones appear to hald. I've done some work on HAL in past months, so I have a view on the matter. HAL uses sysctl for disks detection, so it's up to the system to list all the available drives. I'll try to have a look in next days, but my wild guess (since I've not been using ntfs-3g for years) is that ntfs-3g unloads its module when all mounts are removed, thus making the drives undetectable again. Is that correct? -- Alberto Villa, FreeBSD committer http://people.FreeBSD.org/~avilla