Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:37:03 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> To: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc Message-ID: <20150409223703.GS8220@zxy.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <20150409222833.GC96636@FreeBSD.org> References: <20150406071640.GJ23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406082553.GW64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406084141.GK23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406084937.GX64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406085323.GL23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409215802.GY21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409221632.GB96636@FreeBSD.org> <20150409222557.GR8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409222833.GC96636@FreeBSD.org>
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:28:33AM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:25:57AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > S> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:16:32AM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > S> > S> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:04:42AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > S> > S> I am talk not about using or not using utf-8. > S> > S> I am talk about unconditionaly forcing switch from non-utf8 to utf-8 > S> > S> locale (FreeBSD-11 can be get not only be fresh install but and by > S> > S> freebsd-update/source update on the live systems, with bunch files > S> > S> witch content in koi8 and named in koi8). > S> > > S> > If content and names in KOI8 in existing installation block migration > S> > to UTF-8, how would you suggest to perform migration to UTF-8? > S> > S> Just create new login class, russian_utf8. > S> Locale is process attribute, not system wide. > S> When someone will be ready to migrate and converted > S> content/names/configs -- he just change login class. > S> If not need -- not changed. > > When is it going to be made default? What about you talk? As I see current default -- no login class, locale "C". I don't see any scrip/tools (in base systems) for creating users and ack 'language/locale for user'. I don't like to remove koi8 locale from base systems (at least in 20 years) -- you can see discursion in -current about Win95 (created 20 yars ago).
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