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Date:      Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:09:00 -0800 
From:      Jason DiCioccio <Jason.DiCioccio@Epylon.com>
To:        'John Howie' <JHowie@msn.com>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: IDIOT
Message-ID:  <657B20E93E93D4118F9700D0B73CE3EA0242E9@goofy.epylon.lan>

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Yes, his reply was indeed uncalled for.. And especially from an
anonymous email address, he must've known that it was, which leads me
to beleive that he won't admit to it.

- -JD-


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Jason DiCioccio
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- -----Original Message-----
From: John Howie [mailto:JHowie@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 5:38 PM
To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Fw: IDIOT


To the cowardly subscriber of this list who sent me the following
email from
an anonymous account I'd like to point out that MSN stands for the
Microsoft
Network and does not mean that I work for, or endorse, Microsoft or
its
products. The fact that I use them is irrelevant. I posted the
original
email about the BindView advisory as it *clearly* affects FreeBSD,
which I
happen to run on an AlphaStation - but that, too, is irrelevant. I
also
won't point out the nearly two decades of UNIX experience that I
have, or my
kernel development experience. What I will say is that the coward who
sent
me this should stand up for his convictions and face me from a real
email
address and allow our peers to decide.

To everyone else on the list, I apologize for taking up bandwidth.

john...

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <aeonflux@microsoft.com>
To: <JHowie@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 4:59 PM
Subject: IDIOT


> Seriously dude.  Your an idiot... this whole bindview is well
> beyond something you can realistically hope to understand.
>
> All you see, or atleast you think you see is that it doens't effect
> yoru dos, and effects others.  Well lets talk about the counterless
> other fucking millions of exploits that are windows specific.
>
> realistically speaking, msft is the biggest joke when it comes to
> security 
of
> all time.
>
> And to be honest, windows2000 is not invulernable.  It's only
> invulnerable in regards to smb.  Octopus style attacks (which
> bindview soo moronically reinvented) have been around for a long
> time.  Which is why most software contains max connections.  On
> other services like exchange, it's VERY vulnerable.  OFcourse I
> doubt you even understand what I'm talking about. 
>
> The freebsd box in bindview's test had that option DISABLED. 
> Meaning it 
wasn't
> even a default install.  This is yet another mindcraft, FIX...  How
> sad, 
how
> pathetic and how silly that an idiot such as yourself would even
> dare 
believe
> something.  Ahh I saw it online, in a microsoft mailing list, it
> MUST BE 
TRUE.
> Cause windows2000 is soo well engineered, those 2000 chimps did
> such a 
good job
> on the gui... oh yeah and those 3 guys working on the networking
> stuff... 
they
> did good too!  I GOT MY MCSE, LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!
>
> Chances are your going to have to learn unix, if you wanna stay a
> systems administrator.  Thou I hear there are alot of helpdesk
> opennings.
>
> Face it... your a bitch...  And a dumb one.
>
> MaxStartups is DEFAULT in freebsd release 4.0 within
> /etc/ssh/sshd_config check your facts fuck.
>
> This is probably all over your head...  So just sit happily in your
> little world, resting assured in the fact that you dont have to
> learn anything 
new and
> that your trival knowledge in a mickeymouse os will get you through
> life. 
>
> Microsoft makes great os's for people who can't code, or are too
> stupid to 
ever
> wanna understand what's happening under the broken ass gui.
>
> Oh that reminds me.... enjoy your next virus, you clearly deserve
> it. 
>
> PS:  this is one of those 'freebie' email accounts, dont
> bother.
>
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>
>
>





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