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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:08:17 -0400
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To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf
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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday,  5 June 2002 at 16:26:17 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> > In message <20020605084755.K91379@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes:
> >
> >>>> ntpdate(8) may be deprecated in the mind of the ntpd(8) author but
> >>>> the replacement functionality isn't the same yet.
> >>>
> >>> If ntpdate is going away soon, we need to experiement with the
> >>> replacement now.
> >>
> >> What's the replacement?
> >
> > Ideally, somebody would sit down and write a sntpd(8), which would be a
> > light-weight, client-side-only NTP daemon without refclock support,
> > without weird remote-configration stuff and other excess luggage.
> >
> > If somebody wants to volounteer, I will happily provide detailed
> > guidance on the timekeeping magic needed.
> 
> A good suggestion, but it misses the point.  We shouldn't be throwing
> out things like ntpdate *until* we have a replacement.

And probably not even when we have a replacement. If it's functionality
if available from ntpd with an option then ntpdate can be made
a shell script calling ntpd but not completely thrown away.
Ot's way too convenient to be thrown away.

-SB

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