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Date:      Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:09:57 +0200
From:      Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>
To:        Bob Willcox <bob@immure.com>
Cc:        DTD <doug@safeport.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: firefox is pretty useless ...
Message-ID:  <20170711150957.GO38753@e-new.0x20.net>
In-Reply-To: <20170711144510.GO96529@rancor.immure.com>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1707050200150.11048@bucksport.safeport.com> <20170711144510.GO96529@rancor.immure.com>

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On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 09:45:10AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 02:07:29AM -0400, DTD wrote:
> > if you use xfce. By definition it is not a problem that:
> > 
> >    1) install a new copy of FreeBSD 10.3
> >    2) pkg install xorg
> >    3) pkg install xfce
> >    4) pkg install firefox
> > 
> > installs a firefox package that does not run. The project seems to do a bit
> > better than this on Windows, but they (I think) have to in that environment. The
> > official answer to the above is:
> > 
> > --- Comment #1 from Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org> ---
> > Partial upgrades i.e., mixing dependencies from different svn checkouts, dates
> > of "pkg install" or locking dependencies, are not supported. firefox will
> > refuse to build unless you upgrade sqlite3. Some version requirement are
> > specified in the port's Makefile
> > 
> >    $ fgrep sqlite www/firefox/Makefile
> >                    sqlite3>=3.17.0:databases/sqlite3 \
> >                    ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}sqlite3>0:databases/py-sqlite3 \
> > 
> > "pkg upgrade" may help you resolve this.
> > 
> > The only problem with this 'solution' is that upgrading sqlite requires a
> > cascading series of updates that breaks parts of xfce. Other than that no
> > problem here. So if you use twm firefox is your browser.
> > 
> > The next time I build a system I will try installing firefox first. I got here 
> > because I wanted to ungrade thunar (xfce's file manager). That upgrade broke
> > the version of firefox that was running (47.somethine). Chasing and fixing that 
> > chain eventually required a reinstall. Happily (for me) chrome works.
> 
> Hmm, what firefox port are you building/running? I'm running version 54.0
> (firefox-54.0.1_1,1) without any real issues (well, none at this point). I
> don't install or run xfce, but use the ctwm window manager (ctwm-4.0.0,1).
> Perhaps that's the difference.
> 
> I'm also running 10.3:
> FreeBSD luke.immure.com 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #3 r320754: Thu Jul  6 15:13:13 CDT 2017     bob@luke.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LUKE  amd64
> 
> As an asside, I recommend running v 54 of firefox in any event. The new
> thread support seems to have significantly improved its performance and
> stability for me (at least).

Yes, it feels much faster even on my venerable Thinkpad X200.



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