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Date:      Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:39:36 -0700
From:      Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
To:        Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kib@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated
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On 2018-Oct-22, at 4:07 AM, Toomas Soome <tsoome at me.com> wrote:

> On 22 Oct 2018, at 13:58, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> On 2018-Oct-22, at 2:27 AM, Toomas Soome <tsoome at me.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> On 22 Oct 2018, at 06:30, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:28 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 8:57 PM Mark Millard via freebsd-stable <
>>>>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> [I built based on WITHOUT_ZFS=3D for other reasons. But,
>>>>>> after installing the build, Hyper-V based boots are
>>>>>> working.]
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 2018-Oct-20, at 2:09 AM, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On 2018-Oct-20, at 1:39 AM, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> It would help to get output from loader lsdev -v command.
>>=20
>> That turned out to be very interesting: The non-ZFS loader
>> crashes during the listing, during disk8, which shows a
>> x0 instead of a x512.
>>=20
>=20
> Yes, thats the root cause there. The non-zfs loader does only *read* =
the boot disk, thats why the issue was not revealed there.=20
>=20
> It would help to identify the sector size for that disk, at least from =
OS, so we can compare with what we can get from INT13.
>=20
> I have pretty good idea what to look there, but I am afraid we need to =
run few tests with you to understand why that disk is reporting sector =
size 0 there.
>=20
>=20

Looks like I guessed wrong about the device
for "drive8".

So I unplugged the only other external
storage device, so the original drives
0-13 become 0-11 overall.

The machine has a multi-LUN media card reader with
no cards plugged in. It is built-in rather than
one that I plugged into a port. It has 4 LUN's.

So 8+4=3D12 and drives 0-7 show up with media before
it tries any of the 4 LUN's with no card in place.

I conclude that "drive8" is an empty LUN in a media
card reader.

I conclude that there is no sector size available for
any of the empty LUNs in the media reader.

>=20
>=20
>> Hand transcribed from pictures:
>>=20
>> OK lsdev -v
>> disk devices
>> disk0: BIOS drive C (937703088 x 512):
>> disk0p1: FreeBSD boot 512K
>> disk0p2: FreeBSD UFS  356G
>> disk0p3: FreeBSD swap 15G
>> disp0p4: FreeBSD swap 76G
>> disk1: BIOS drive D (16514064 x 512):
>> disk1s1: Linux   2048KB
>> disk1s2: Unknown 952GB
>> disk2: BIOS drive E (16514064 x 512):
>> disk2p1: Unknown 128MB
>> disk3: BIOS drive F (16514064 x 512):
>> disk3p1: Unknown 128MB
>> disk4: BIOS drive G (16434495 x 512):
>> disk2p1: Unknown     128MB
>> disk4p2: DOS/Windwos 1716GB
>> disk5: BIOS drive H (16434495 x 512):
>> disk5p1: FreeBSD boot 512K
>> disk5p2: FreeBSD UFS  176G
>> disk5p3: FreeBSD swap 193G
>> disp5p4: FreeBSD swap 15G
>> disk6: BIOS drive I (16434495 x 512):
>> disk6p1: Unknown     499MB
>> disk6p2: EFI         99MB
>> disk6p3: Unknown     16MB
>> disp6p4: DOS/Windows 886G
>> dis7: BIOS drive H (16434495 x 512):
>> disk7p1: FreeBSD boot 512K
>> disk7p2: FreeBSD UFS  953G
>> disk8: BIOS drive K (262144 x 0):
>>=20
>> int=3D00000000  err=3D00000000  efl=3D00010246  eip=3D000286bd
>> eax=3D00000000  ebx=3D72b50430  ecx=3D00000000  edx=3D00000000
>> esi=3D00000000  edi=3D00092080  ebp=3D00091eec  esp=3D00091ea8
>> cs=3D002b  ds=3D0033  es=3D0033    fs=3D0033  gs=3D0033  ss=3D0033
>> cs:eip=3Df7 f1 89 c1 85 d2 0f 85-d8 01 00 00 6a 05 58 85
>>       f6 0f 88 75 01 00 00 89-cb c1 fb 1f 89 ca 03 55
>> ss:esp=3D09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-0a 00 00 00 02 00 00 00
>>       00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-78 1f 09 00 33 45 04 00
>> BTX halted
>>=20
>> I expect that "disk8" is what gpart show -p
>> from a native boot showed as:
>>=20
>> =3D>       1  60062499    da1  MBR  (29G)
>>        1        31         - free -  (16K)
>>       32  60062468  da1s1  fat32lba  (29G)
>>=20
>> (That gpart show -p output is in another of the
>> list messages.)
>>=20
>>> Also if you could test boot loader with UEFI - for example get to =
loader prompt via usb/cd boot and then get the same lsdev -v output.
>>=20
>> Still true given the above crash? Or, going the
>> other way, should "drive8" be left as it is in
>> order to be sure to do this test with the drive
>> present?
>>=20
>> If I do this test later, it will take a bit to
>> get media to do it with. (It is about 4AM in the
>> morning and I've yet to get to sleep.)
>>=20
>> Note: I've never tried a UEFI based boot of FreeBSD
>> on this machine (but the Windows 10 Pro x64 is EFI
>> based). The only FreeBSD context using a EFI partition
>> to boot that I have used is on an arm aarch64
>> Cortex-A57 system.
>>=20
>>> I would be interested to see the sector size information and if the =
UEFI loader does also have issues.
>>=20
>> Understood.
>>=20
>>> If it does, I=E2=80=99d like to see the outputs from commands:
>>=20
>>> zpool status
>>> zpool import
>>=20
>> Independent of the UEFI test . . .
>>=20
>> I do have a -r331924 head version on another one
>> of the devices and can native-boot that. It still
>> has its ZFS software (but a default loader without
>> ZFS).
>>=20
>> Trying from that context, hand transcribed:
>>=20
>> # zpool status
>> ZFS filesystem version: 5
>> ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000)
>> no pools available
>> # zpool import
>> #
>>=20
>> [That was based on the old (default) loader being
>> a non-ZFS one.]
>=20
>=20

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Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
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