From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 12:23:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D40C16A4CE for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:23:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.uk.psi.com (mail.uk.psi.com [154.8.2.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679BD43D95 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:22:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.barrow@psinet.telstra.co.uk) Received: from ip14.vpn.uk.psi.com ([154.8.4.14] helo=psinet.telstra.co.uk) by mail.uk.psi.com with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DYNZe-0001YB-Di; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <428B337F.407@psinet.telstra.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:22:23 +0100 From: alan barrow Organization: PSINet a telstra company User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Macintosh/20040208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Gunderson References: <3.0.1.32.20050516001815.00ab1b70@pop.redshift.com> <3.0.1.32.20050515211634.00b041d8@pop.redshift.com> <3.0.1.32.20050515211634.00b041d8@pop.redshift.com> <3.0.1.32.20050516001815.00ab1b70@pop.redshift.com> <3.0.1.32.20050516011517.00ab1b70@pop.redshift.com> <20050516100330.46e6b7b2.kgunders@teamcool.net> In-Reply-To: <20050516100330.46e6b7b2.kgunders@teamcool.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090006090807060101090305" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rackmount MP AMD boxes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: alan.barrow@psinet.telstra.co.uk List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:23:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090006090807060101090305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit think I know this company as well. And I have to agree, after the excellent female sales person left the true nature of their ineptidude came to light. yours a.r.b. Ken Gunderson wrote: >On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:15:17 -0700 >ray@redshift.com wrote: > > > >>| I would estimate it was about 4-5 weeks ago. Sorry but I don't recall >>| any names. Tech guy was good. Sales guy I got transferred to was >>| supposedly one of the head honchos. Don't recall specifics but I have >>| vague recollection of Indian (?) accent and that he may have been part >>| owner and/or manager. Anyhow, I have a reseller's license and he was >> >>Hi Ken, >> >> I've been to the company - I don't believe there are any Indian people working >>there. It's a small shop, great equipment, well run, etc. Are you sure you >>weren't talking to Dell :) >> >>| Glad they've worked out well for you but I'd certainly never consider >>| them ever again unless I was in a real bind and out of options. I may >>| have only been dropping 4 grand but for me that's not mere chump change >>| and I didn't appreciate being treated like one. >> >>My gut reaction is you are mixing them up with some other company... but who >>knows. Maybe you hit a bad sales person or something? >> >>All I can say is that as far as pricing, they are best I've found and I've been >>in the computer field for 26 years. I used to sell boxes. When I first ran >>across them, their prices on Supermicro servers (the price I was getting from >>them for just 1 or 2 machines at a time) was so much lower than other hardware >>suppliers that several of the other people bidding on my business flat out said >>"We pay more wholesale for our equipment than OSS is selling it to you for - we >>can't beat those prices". >> >>I went back to OSS (spoke with Eren) and asked them how they are getting such >>great prices. He explained they sell to larger gov and enterprise companies >>(AOL, etc, etc) and that they move so much volume that they get great prices >>from SuperMicro). I believe they are now doing basically the same thing, only >>with AMD and Tyan. >> >>Anyway, no one is forcing you to shop there :-) I was simply answering that one >>e-mail from whoever was asking about AMD boxes. That's where I buy our rack >>servers and as I said, the service has been 2nd to none over the last 3 or 4 >>years. Having done business with the company for all our servers, I'm a little >>surprised you would have such radically different experiences. >> >> > >Ray/List, et. al.-- > >I'd meant to send my last reply to Ray and not the list. That's what I >get for doing email that late when I'm tired... > >I think Ray's reply to OP was an honest effort to be helpful based on >his personal experiences with oss. Similarly with me. I wouldn't have >followed up to the extent that I did had not the company I was >referencing been so rude and arrogant. > >Sorry that I cannot recall specifics as they were one of many >I spoke with and it's been a few weeks but I was pretty sure we >were talking about the same outfit. However, I now concede that we may >not have been referencing the same company. Doing some research this >morninig, I am inclined to think I was the one in error. The >company I referenced was very close in name (again sorry that I cannot >recall precisely), linked to from Tyan's website (perhaps at the time, >but I cannot seem to find them there anymore), was a flash heavy site, >and somehow affiliated with Colfax (at least that's who I got >transferred to and the website I was directed to to check pricing). Of >this latter part I am sure because I revisited and immediately >recognize the site. > >Anyhow, I don't want to spam the list anymore with this. But in >fairness to Open Source Storage I feel I should post this follow up >saying that I _may_ have been confusing them with someone else. My >apologies if I've offended anyone in so doing. > >Thanks for your indulgence and have a good day;-) > >Ciao-- kvg >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > --------------090006090807060101090305--