From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 11:04:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A777716A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from vhost109.his.com (vhost109.his.com [216.194.225.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F5143D2F for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:04:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (localhost.his.com [127.0.0.1]) by vhost109.his.com (8.12.6p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i2HJ4Cxe035462; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:04:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@127.0.0.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20040317124232.617db171.manlix@demonized.net> References: <20040315134745.1eb201f4.manlix@demonized.net> <20040315125121.GC91150@abc.123.org> <20040315135725.3cc70f97.manlix@demonized.net> <20040317110938.GA86023@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040317124232.617db171.manlix@demonized.net> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:51:31 +0100 To: Johan Pettersson From: Brad Knowles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: dev-null@NUXI.com cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pkg-based base system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:04:27 -0000 At 12:42 PM +0100 2004/03/17, Johan Pettersson wrote: > I like FreeBSD, but why > should I have things that I don't use installed? Yes, you can use > find(1) as mentioned by someone but it could be simplified. On virtually every Unix system I've ever administered over the past fifteen years, there have been parts to the system that I didn't like. So, I brought in something else, and set that up. You can do the same here, and the ports system tries to make that as easy as possible. If you want to build from source, there are a whole bunch of "NO_" targets that have been defined so that you don't even build those parts of the system if you don't want them (and don't want to run the risk that updating them will overwrite your current config). But I don't see why we have to try to force-fit all OSes in the world into the Linux package-for-everything model. On any FreeBSD system I ever touch, I expect certain things to be in there, and I don't want to see things like vi no being available anywhere on the system because my insane predecessor was an emacs fanatic. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)