From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Feb 4 8:26:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CBD37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from priv-edtnes04.telusplanet.net (outbound02.telus.net [199.185.220.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E3143E4A for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:26:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mtntrip@telus.net) Received: from mtntrip.ici.net ([142.179.173.206]) by priv-edtnes04.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20030204162635.DPQL27316.priv-edtnes04.telusplanet.net@mtntrip.ici.net>; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:26:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:30:30 -0700 From: James Earl To: pippo@bellnet.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: portupgrading problems Message-Id: <20030204093030.6ebaba44.mtntrip@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030204093227.00b80788@mail.host45.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030204093227.00b80788@mail.host45.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:00:23 -0500 pippo@bellnet.ca wrote: > Some time ago I chose FreeBSD over all other *nix systems because I found > the system better managed, easier to administrate, better supported and > simpler to update and upgrade both the OS and the programs - especially > through portupgrade. > Several times I have encountered glitches in the update process; some I > managed to figure out what the problem was, some other I just had to wait > until the port was corrected then re-cvsup and portupgrade. This, on 2 > similar FBSD v.4.7 installations. > > Currently I have encountered problems with updating KDE3 (because kdegames3 > had some sort of problem - I don't have time for the games anyway, but this > messes up the update - and the audio/arts program also had problems) and > Openoffice 1.02. > Open office seems to be a particular case as it requires 4Gb of space for > installation on *nix! I cannot think of another program that seems to be so > bloated for installation. Is there an insurmountable problem here? I did > find a port for FBSD to install the Ooo v.1.0.1 but now to update - whammo! > It seems to me that it is rare that one needs the huge capacity disks that > seem so current - I have 1 10gb and 1 34Gb raid array, but they are used > for different OS's and for storage. It is impractical to have to > re-organize your entire system just for 1 program. :(( > > If the port is faulty and is uploaded to the port site, then the downloaded > port sits in the machine and then you have to figure out what went wrong. > What is annoying is the enormous time it take to reinstall stuff like KDE3 > and Open office only to find that the installation has failed and sometimes > the old installarion is screwed up... Fortunately, I have not committed to > using FBSD and the *nix program exclusively as, so far, I have found that > there are still nasty kinks in the gears that take away too much time from > creative productivity for maintenance > > Can someone explain the best way to deal with the updating process? How to > minimize updating problems? > Thanks in advance, > PJ This is what I have found to work for me... For OpenOffice.org, I don't even bother building the monster. It's just not worth it... instead I download the pre-compiled package from http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/ . I haven't had any problems with these packages, and they are usually kept right up-to-date. As for KDE3. I don't use it, but I use GNOME2 sometimes. I personally don't bother using the "meta-port" (x11/gnome2 and x11/kde3), as it installs more than I ever need or want (like games). My recommendation would be to install only what you want -- and the dependencies of course :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message