From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 21:57:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B138A106566C; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from cell.p6m7g8.net (static-71-178-236-107.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.178.236.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418138FC0C; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [205.215.253.153] (ip-available-205-215-253-153.portnetworks.net [205.215.253.153] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by cell.p6m7g8.net (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8ULv7ph071015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:57:07 GMT (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Message-ID: <4CA507AE.3070808@p6m7g8.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:57:02 -0400 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: P6M7G8 Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <201009272151.o8RLpA8I002279@repoman.freebsd.org> <20100928024255.GA61304@FreeBSD.org> <20100928075649.c3bcb0a9.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> <20100928122336.GB32589@FreeBSD.org> <4CA269E6.4030005@FreeBSD.org> <20100929070005.GU77643@droso.net> <4CA50552.5050703@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4CA50552.5050703@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on cell.p6m7g8.net Cc: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org, Erwin Lansing , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/screenie Makefile pkg-descr X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: **OBSOLETE** CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:57:14 -0000 On 9/30/2010 5:46 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > My larger point is that with the massive number of ports that we have I > think there needs to be _less_ tolerance for unmaintained ports than we > have had in the past because the larger the total number of ports gets > the harder it is to keep things un-crufty. This is particularly true > with ports that we don't anticipate software updates for since new > versions of things tend to stimulate interest from potential new > maintainers. I couldn't agree more here. Within the next 1-3 years our focus will shift from KEEP-AT-ALL-COSTS to REMOVE-AT-ALL-COSTS. Either that or we'll be adding 2-5x the number of committers we do now. It will be quite interesting to watch b/c the community is inherently against both. This is going to be especially more interesting as our pointyhat clusters beef up and more infra related changes come through faster and more furious. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1024D/DB9B8C1C B90B FBC3 A3A1 C71A 8E70 3F8C 75B8 8FFB DB9B 8C1C Philip M. Gollucci (pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) c: 703.336.9354 VP Apache Infrastructure; Member, Apache Software Foundation Committer, FreeBSD Foundation Consultant, P6M7G8 Inc. Sr. System Admin, Ridecharge Inc. Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching.