From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 3 10: 1:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.sfo.com (relay1.sfo.com [205.162.14.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F72D37BC2A for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from soundbyte@sound-by-design.com) Received: from sound-by-design.com (sf-333.sfo.com [209.159.153.77]) by relay1.sfo.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFO.r.04) with ESMTP id KAA15304 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39105B15.54834BF7@sound-by-design.com> Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:00:06 -0700 From: Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pratt missing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG R. Pratt has a good install doc but when I went to ask him a couple of questions, I got back "user unknown." So I'll ask the questions he, if I may. Thanks. Allen Schaaf ====== ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx.azstarnet.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 ... User unknown [snip Message-ID: <39105836.10020774@sound-by-design.com> Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:47:51 -0700 From: Allen To: rpratt@azstarnet.com Subject: Great job! No bs. Your newbie install stuff is great, but... (hey you knew that was coming, didn't you?) Well, the first problem is that you talk about it being set up on a single 8gig drive even though you say two drives, so none of the structure across drives is there. Second, although you talk about the file system, it isn't too clear to a DRDOS/MESSDOS old dog. First item: I have aquired an older 486 running BSDi and have neither the bins nor the password to log on the machine. It works fine right up to the login and then it stops just like it should. (The machine was a radio station logger so is quite robust.) My question, which I can find no information on is, how do I allocate disk space. The machine has one floopy and 3 SCSI drives connected to an Adaptec1542 card, one 345 meg and two 200 meg and I have two extra 200 meg drives available as well as an older (1996) Panasonic SCSI CDROM. What I don't comprehend is how to split the install over the drives to best utilize the space available. The other question is about creating the boot floppies. Since I can not access the BSDi, should I make the floppies on my W95 machine? How should/do I partition/format the drives? I do not want any messdos on the machine if possible. What I want to do is run a small webserver for my LAN - 3 Windows 95 machines, my Digital Audio Workstation, my "other computer" and my wife's computer. The reason for the web server is that I'm learning CGI-Perl for http and want a local machine to test my errors against. I'm using ActiveState Perl on my other computer for the basics, but need an actual httpd to test results on. I don't trust W95 to run a server and test perl scripts while giving a real-world correct response. Besides, I've always believed that a hammer doesn't make a great screwdriver. Multipurpose tools are usually mediocre so get the right tools for the job. I bought the current Walnut Creek PowerPac so that is what I'm starting with. (All 10 CD's!) Second: Now I know this is a limitation of my understanding and background, but I can not find a GOOD explaination of the relationship of drives/partitions/slices to the *nix file structure. To me one has a filing cabinet with multiple drawers - each drawer is equal to a disk drive. Inside each drawer is a series of file folders - each equal to a directory. Inside each file folder is a series of pieces of paper - each equal to a file. This approach makes sense as an inverted tree diagram and I can draw a path from the (air)root to any single bit of datum in every file. Now I understand that DRDOS/MESSDOS impose no specific structure about the naming or connection between directories - my Eudora can be on C:\ and yours on D:\Mail\Eudora, etc. Yet, even given this I can, with a lot of peeking around find anything I have a clue or two about even on your W9*/NT/W2000 system if I have the proper permissions. But *nix talks about mounting a drive to a certain file point: mount the CDROM, for example, to /cdrom. Okay. Now how does this fit in with /usr, or /, or any of the other /*'s that are mentioned on pages 230-231 of Lehey's book. The chart and description make it seem as though there is no direct connection between the directories and that each could be on it's own drive/slice in any order whatsoever. Please explain or point me to an explaination. TIA Allen Schaaf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message