From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 01:22:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3DC37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uc3m.es (smtp02.uc3m.es [163.117.136.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3D843F3F for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrh@it.uc3m.es) Received: from smtp02.uc3m.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A27E431A7; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:22:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from arpa.it.uc3m.es (arpa.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.120]) by smtp02.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F9099FAC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:22:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lmserv2.lab.it.uc3m.es (root@lmserv2.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.238]) by arpa.it.uc3m.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17888; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:22:07 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: arpa.it.uc3m.es: Host root@lmserv2.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.238] claimed to be lmserv2.lab.it.uc3m.es Received: from mira.it.uc3m.es (mira.it.uc3m.es [163.117.140.166]) by lmserv2.lab.it.uc3m.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29455; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:22:04 +0200 From: Juan Rodriguez Hervella Organization: UC3M To: dickey@herndon4.his.com, Christopher Vance Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:22:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <3F08B199.3050409@comcast.net> <20030707002347.GC5141@aurema.com> <20030706203440.D89894@vhost101.his.com> In-Reply-To: <20030706203440.D89894@vhost101.his.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307071022.04273.jrh@it.uc3m.es> cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: "Myron J. Mayfield" Subject: Re: /dev/shm X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:22:14 -0000 On Monday 07 July 2003 02:41, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Christopher Vance wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 08:14:44PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > : On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > > : > Myron J. Mayfield wrote: > > : > >start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried > > : > >adding this to /dev but was unable to. Does anyone have any > > : > > > : > For some unexcused reason there is the trend in Linux to represent > > : > everything as kind of a wired half finished pseudo file system. /proc > > : > pipe devicefs sysctl and so on... The list is really long. Even > > : > shared memmory is mapped to ehrm.... a filesystem. This is > > : > "expected" to be mounted at /dev/shm by the system. You can't expect > > : > FreeBSD to follow this path... > > : > > : Linux isn't the only system that does this (learn a little, criticize > > : less). > > > > If you're talking about Plan 9 or Inferno, they at least have a > > history of finishing their filesystems and understanding why it's done > > that way. If Linux attempts to copy without understanding, and > > doesn't complete the job, it doesn't imply that the original idea was > > a Bad Thing, only that the implementation sucks. > > Better, apparently to "copy" (not actually), rather than to whine in the > background... > > Still - your response is equally ignorant (Plan 9 is well known - even > to students), since it offers no useful information. > > The /proc stuff is used in "real" Unix's such as Solaris. Just checking, > I see that FreeBSD implements procfs, which is along the same lines. > > (still waiting for FreeBSD to "complete" a sysinstall program that doesn't > look as if it was an assignment for high-school interns). What's the matter with "sysinstall" ? I very much like "sysinstall" as it is now. :) See you. -- JFRH