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Date:      Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:21:19 -0400
From:      Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sh[it] and What am I missing here?
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On 06/05/16 16:13, Polytropon wrote:
> I'm not sure if it has been mentioned in an explicit way, so
> allow me to pick up some lines and clarify:
>
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:46:46 -0400, Baho Utot wrote:
>> login in as a user ( non root )
>> set
>> SHELL is set to SHELL=/bin/sh
>> Ok now try
>> su - (give password)
>> set
>> SHELL=/bin/csh Ok that makes sense
>> Now
>> /bin/sh
>> set
>> SHELL=/bin/csh WTF?
> This is to be expected. The variable $SHELL corresponds to the
> "shell" field of /etc/passwd, which sets the login shell. When
> you use "su -", you perform a login operation, so root gets
> assigned the login shell as specified by /etc/passwd.
>
> Additionally, "su -" sets the environmental variables for the
> root user and therefore overwrites possibly different settings
> of the initial user; "su -m" preserves that user's environment.
>
>
>
>> login as root
>> set
>> SHELL=/bin/csh Ok that makes sense
>> /bin/sh
>> set
>> SHELL=/bin/csh WTF?
> Again, the same thing happens. If you execute /bin/sh, it will
> inherit the environment previously set up by /bin/csh, which
> also contains the $SHELL variable.
>
> Remember, $SHELL does not state which shell you are currently
> using - instead, it contains the name of the login shell.
>
>
>
>> It looks to me ( if I am not missing something here )
>> That I can only get to sh by loging in as a user...Again WTF
> If you want to interactively run sh (the Bourne shell equivalent
> of FreeBSD, which is not a good dialog shell, but the system's
> default scripting shell, as well as the dialog shell for the
> limited maintenance mode / single user mode), just execute it.
>
> 	% sh
> 	# _
>
> For scripting use, /bin/sh is recommended over bash except you
> really _really_ want to use bash-isms that sh does not implement.
> In this case, make sure your script starts with "#!/usr/local/bin/bash"
> (the default path after installation of bash from ports) or the
> more convenient "#!/usr/bin/env bash" which will also work if you
> force bash's install into /bin.
>
> However, you don't need to execute a shell script written for sh
> from inside sh. It's just important that the following conditions
> are met: (1st) "#!/bin/sh" is the first line, (2nd) the script is
> executable (use "chmod +x <name>" to set the x bit), and (3rd) the
> script is at a location inside $PATH, the search path from where
> executables are sourced. When you run csh, give the "rehash" command
> after you've put something into a valid executable location, or just
> specify the full path (use "./name" or "./name.sh" for the current
> directory).
>
>
>
Looks like I need to reread how login/interactive shells are executed as 
I don't remember when .profiles and .shrc are executed/read




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