From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:19:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FAB37B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2859443F75; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6TJJI0U070217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:19:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6TJJHIE070212; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:19:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:19:17 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: re@FreeBSD.org cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:19:51 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:02:39AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:16:19PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: [...] > > Is there an alternative for those in remote areas that can neither > > download the miniiso nor buy the cd set? Every time that we talk about > > downloading iso's, the issue comes up of those in eastern-bloc and > > asian countries that have little bandwidth. Can Alpha do a 'boot-only' > > cd image that is <5MB? >=20 > Maybe. But you would need a lot of other stuff to make it useful as > an installed system so why would the size of the boot'kit' be so importan= t? > I mean, you need the rest of the bits downloaded anyway to get a useful > installation. >=20 This is not the point IMO. The point is to have the miniboot.iso that could be used to replace a floppy, something less than 5MB, with only kernel and MFS root on it (resembling the contents of the "big" boot.flp floppy). Everything else would have to be downloaded from the net (e.g., FTP), but that would not cost you 236MB like it's currently for the miniinst.iso for 5.1/Alpha -- the "base" distribution on FTP is only 47MB. If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This would be extremely useful for other platforms too, including i386. Just let me know if there's a strong interest in this. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/Jsi1Ukv4P6juNwoRAoX9AJ4qlGH+9YjTyGTwO1ZmaBVDqDbBuwCfVN+o KuvhWCSiuKMBWJLxnF8OkUQ= =wi69 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q--