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Date:      Sun, 17 May 1998 13:21:01 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
To:        imdave@mcs.net (Dave Bodenstab)
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kline@thought.org
Subject:   Re: mail//sendmail question
Message-ID:  <199805172021.NAA29961@tao.thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <199805171742.MAA06420@base486.home.org> from Dave Bodenstab at "May 17, 98 12:42:57 pm"

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According to Dave Bodenstab:
> 
> > From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> >
> >   Very few things left to get my private (illegal?!) network functional.
> >   One thing is:   How can I get email working from my  P90 across to my
> >   8x86?
> >
> >   If I say ``mail myfriend@10.0.0.2'' or the like, zip.  Is there some
> >   somemail configuration to achieve this magic?  Or smail3.X?
> 
> I've got two machines set up similarly.  I tinkered with sendmail and never
> was able to prevent it from doing DNS lookups.  I finally wound up running
> a local name server.  As with sendmail, I tinkered with the configuration
> files until I got it to work.  I read ``Unix System Administration Handbook''
> by Nemeth, etc. but I still don't fully understand everything.  I'll include
> all my configuration files for sendmail and named in the hope they're useful
> to you (and maybe someone more knowledgeable can critique them.)

	Maybe, but I'm not holding my breath...  

	A good book on system admin is on my `buy' list.  Your 
	having figured out the sendmail configs via Nemeth's book
	is a solid recommendation.   

	After some poking around I found the *.mc file that created 
	my present sendmail.cf.  This gives me the ability to run
	UUCP over IP.  If I use things this way, I'll have it builtin.

	Looks like we've got the same 10.X networks, :-).  My `ISP'
	is work; for your base486 I've got this P90 (tao); for your
	base586 I've got a 6x86 (sage).

	Once I've merged a few things into your *.mc files, it looks
	as tho all I need do is some :s/<subs>/g   .   The rest of
	it (the MX and name daemon stuff) is at the limits of my
	knowledge.  Without lots of help from the list I'd still be
	lightyears from where I am.

> 
> My two machines are a 486 (base486.home.org) that is my ``primary'' machine --
> it runs named, and also dials my ISP with "ppp -alias".  The machine is known
> as imdave.pr.mcs.net in the real world when connected to my ISP.  The other
> machine I call "base586.home.org" -- a flakey-when-using-floating-point-instructions
> Cyrix 6x86 CPU.

	Hm.  How old is your 6x86??  (Mine in from 9/97.)



> I've also got a couple of old machines connected by serial
> ports using uucp.
> 
>     ISP (mcs.net)
>      |
>      |
>   205.164.3.77  (imdave.pr.mcs.net)
>      |
>   +--|--------+                                            +-------------+
>   | ppp       |                                            |             |
>   |           |                                            |             |
>   |    ne2000 --- 10.0.0.1 -------------------- 10.0.0.2 --- ne2000      |
>   |           | (base486.home.org)      (base586.home.org) |             |
>   | cuaa4     |                                            |             |
>   +--|--------+                                            +-------------+
>      |
>    unixpc
> 
> The contents of all the following files will be indented with two spaces.
> First, /etc/hosts.
> 
> For base486.home.org:
>   127.0.0.1	base486.home.org localhost.home.org base486 localhost


	Here, I see differences.  In this P90's /etc/hosts I have

	10.0.0.1  tao.thought.org tao

	and the requisite IP to work.  I wonder if I can delete the
	10.1 entry.


>   10.0.0.2	base586.home.org base586
> 
> For base586.home.org:
>   127.0.0.1		localhost.home.org localhost
>   10.0.0.1		base486.home.org base486
>   10.0.0.2		base586.home.org base586
> 
> Second, the sendmail configuration files.  Do I need the mailertables?  Do I need
> the relaytable?  I don't know or remember why I thought I need them -- but it seems
> to works for me mostly.


	
	Have you deleted the tables to determine if they _are_
	necessary?   They probably are....


> 
> For base486.home.org:
> 
> base486.mc:
>   divert(-1)
>   #
>   #  Process with:
>   #    gm4 m4/cf.m4 base486.mc >sendmail.cf
>   #
>   divert(0)
>   VERSIONID(`@(#)base486.mc	$Revision: 1.1 $')
>   OSTYPE(bsd4.4)dnl
> 
	[[ ... ]]
> 
> 
> Now for named (on base486).
> 
> /etc/namedb/named.root was originally fetched from
> ftp://FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET/domain/named.root
> 
	[[ ... ]]

> 
> 
> Well, there they are.  They mostly work for me.  One thing I've not gotten
> to work properly is doing a uucp mail from my old system V box to base586.home.org.
> It may be because sendmail isn't configured properly somewhere along the line,
> but I haven't spent any more time tinkering.  I'm also very unclear with respect
> to the MX stuff.  Anyway, good luck.
> 

	Thanks.  I'm going to need some luck to get the rest of this
	set up!   Hopefully, named stuff will be a plug-in after some
	study and subs.

	(!!)

	gary





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   Gary D. Kline         kline@tao.thought.org          Public service uNix


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