From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 22:31:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDC416A403 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CE213C45A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l3BMWJgH044510; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l3BMWIcJ044509; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:32:18 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Steve Franks Message-ID: <20070411223218.GA44292@thought.org> References: <46192C1B.4060706@u.washington.edu> <200704091751.27697.pieter@degoeje.nl> <539c60b90704111316w38017613sd50718d901d37831@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <539c60b90704111316w38017613sd50718d901d37831@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Pieter de Goeje , Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automatic means for spinning down disks available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:31:13 -0000 On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 01:16:26PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > Say, I've been meaning to install ataidle for awhile, as my server handles > approximately 3-5 requests for cvs per 24 hours, and I'm a pragmatic > believer in the dangers of global warming, and I've never had a disk go bad > on my old w2k systems, even though they spun up/down at least 20-50 times a > day (on my desktop). > > It's non-obivous, however, from the docs/man wether ataide makes persistent > changes, or if you need to run it from cron, rc, etc. Anyone know the > 'proper' usage for ataidle? > > I found this: http://andreas.syndrom23.de/drupal/files/ataidle which might > be of general interest to folks along these same lines. No idea if it's > correct usage, however. Yuri Grebenkin's commments up-queue were well put. My newest 2800 AMD runs Ubuntu mostly for things-fun. Tho it has evolution so I can just click-on a mail-embedded URL and have firefox come alive very easily. No mouse swipe and messing with broswer in my default mutt. (&c.) Not *quite* like running a server just to have vi or another editor handy, but close. The Ubuntu runs my DVD/CD burner too. ---But it's still what I consider a "toy." Every situation is unique, I think. Are you admin'ing a slew of server? are you running a few to several for a small business? Or just running two machines for your own fun and profit? Some things to consider (besides powering -down or -off drives) are battery backup system. Don't most UPS systems isolate your servers from the wall-socket? At what level do hard drives have identical circuitry so that they can be software lower-voltaged? *Except for consumer __cost__*, why don't all boxes have builtin batteries like latop? ...There are lots of things to consider. gary > > Thanks, > Steve > > On 4/9/07, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > > >On Sunday 08 April 2007, Garrett Cooper wrote: > >> Hello again all, > >> I was wondering if there was an automatic, and possibly timed > >means to > >> spin down disks available in either ports or the base system, by chance. > >> Just trying to cut down on energy use, and increase my disks' > >lives :). > >> TIA, > >> -Garrett > >Take a look at ataidle (sysutils/ataidle). Dunno if it helps with their > >life > >expectancy, but it certainly is quieter without the disks spinning :). > > > >HTH, > >Pieter de Goeje > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > -- > Steve Franks, KE7BTE > Staff Engineer > La Palma Devices, LLC > http://www.lapalmadevices.com > (520) 312-0089 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix