From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 5 6: 1: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mongrel.pacific.net.au (mongrel.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9876D37B400 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 06:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dungeon.home (ppp5.dyn248.pacific.net.au [203.143.248.5]) by mongrel.pacific.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA23711; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 01:00:38 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: mongrel.pacific.net.au: Host ppp5.dyn248.pacific.net.au [203.143.248.5] claimed to be dungeon.home Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g25E7WF10805; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 00:07:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200203051407.g25E7WF10805@dungeon.home> To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Taming Netscape Navigator? References: <3C7FB956.18428.510B414@localhost> <20020301201318.C3880@over-yonder.net> In-Reply-To: <20020301201318.C3880@over-yonder.net> from "Matthew D. Fuller" at "Sat, 02 Mar 2002 02:13:18 +0000" Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 00:07:32 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 2nd March 2002, "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote: >Opera is nifty. Pretty clean, reasonably efficient. The stupid >all-windows-in-one UI must die a fiery death though. It works great if >you've got 2 or 3 open. It's useless when you get more than 5 or 6, both >because it becomes impossible to find the one you want quickly, and >because Opera gets draggingly slow as you open more. Opera 6.x is even >SLOWER, and non-trivially buggier, so I'm stuck on 5. How interesting! As soon as I saw Opera's tabbed interface, I was sold. The few times since then that I've had to use Netscape with its one-page- per-window scheme have been tediously painful. I can't imagine going back. With Netscape I could usefully open maybe 30 windows, and I would lose them in the clutter. With Opera, I can open about 100 or so. After that, it gets a bit slow, but with a fast Athlon and half a gig of ram, it's fine. Oh, and I use 5.0, not the buggy 6.0 alpha test demos they've released. If you are careful not to do a few particular things, the uptime of opera is a month, perhaps 2 months. Enough to suffice. The thing I really need now is a good HTML filter to remove some of the more repulsive web garbage (popup windows, flashing fonts, scrolling messages in the status bar, target="new" on links, etc). Just never quite get around to writing one. Now, about your assertion that dual CPUs are more wonderful than wonderful, consider the effect of adding a cpu usage limiting scheduler that caused processes that were using 50% or more of the cpu to sleep 1 clock tick out of 2. Wouldn't that be just like two cpus at half the speed? Doesn't that mean I could fake up a dual 700 from my Athlon 1400 for little more than a bit of kernel hackery? Maybe your dual PPRO really is obsolete. :-) Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message