From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 30 03:11:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51F0106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D478FC1A for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so2165488iyb.13 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:10:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; bh=H2Yymh6fwMrEfrWhqL94GVR0pDxsQD4LwpXqyXEmnec=; b=OfG0sDGQgYGmZphg4tSGxXYoVw0BIDtLg9iLdfhIQhv9Ynn5abVgjCRn/rOtrV62qN cwtKxE07GcGW/O27+R+7A3725BLMlfn++BiJ7hshGZTkqLs7hCdGqeUiZydLfo8DN2Ss +Kfb7Ub0FRZOxAt+GFq5IXivevyfWz1zJRe88= Received: by 10.42.156.8 with SMTP id x8mr1551985icw.519.1309403459637; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (adsl-99-190-86-179.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.190.86.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v15sm954644ibh.62.2011.06.29.20.10.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p5U3Att5051177 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:10:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Received: (from jhell@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p5U3AsBx051176; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:10:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:10:54 -0400 From: jhell To: Antony Mawer Message-ID: <20110630031054.GC41789@DataIX.net> References: <20110629190431.e03ac76f.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20110630013323.GA41789@DataIX.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Cc: Torfinn Ingolfsen , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/143370: splash_txt ASCII splash screen module X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:11:00 -0000 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:47:45PM +1000, Antony Mawer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:33 AM, jhell wrote: > > Youve been running this in production... How often do these servers > > reboot ;¿ and is it to identify what is actually running on the machine > > so they are not confused with surrounding equipment ? > > > > Most admins that I know don't bother with things like splash screens on > > 'production' equipment because its irrelevant to the actual server > > usage and unneeded overhead since the actual boot messages prove much > > more useful than some random ascii or bmp/pcx. > > They're embedded-style server systems at remote client sites, about > 1200 of them. The splash module is just a visual "nicety" which is > displayed during startup - at least providing some feedback as to what > the system is doing. These are systems aimed at a non-tech audience, > so those "niceties" count. > > The alternative to that was either standard kernel messages during > boot, or a silent boot, both of which tend to confuse the crap out of > non-tech end users. > Yeah I agree. I originally downloaded your patch, I think it was for a 6.X system back then ~2008-09ish possibly even 7.X and twiddled with it for a bit playing around with all the funkiness of TheDraw and getting that good ole feeling of BBS days. But that's usually about as far as I go with things like that as you could probably tell from above ;) I was going through my archive file directory probably last month and came across the copy of the program which made me remember that patch, funny coincidence that it comes back up now ;) I must say though having to use a reproducible .bin file over trying to figure out all the complexities of making a proper gzip'd xpm,bmp,pcx file was NICE! My first attempt ever making a splash image bmp was a fail due to manual reading problems but needless to say it was a pain. TheDraw nearly painless but how long can we seriously hold on to that program and will there ever be anything to replace it ?