From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 06:45:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC580106564A; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFB58FC12; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0S6hpQ0090542; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:43:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:44:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20090127.234412.-1417606075.imp@bsdimp.com> To: alfred@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20090126220229.GR5889@elvis.mu.org> References: <20090126203824.GO5889@elvis.mu.org> <200901261640.59239.jhb@freebsd.org> <20090126220229.GR5889@elvis.mu.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trimming the default /boot/device.hints X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:45:17 -0000 In message: <20090126220229.GR5889@elvis.mu.org> Alfred Perlstein writes: : * John Baldwin [090126 13:57] wrote: : > On Monday 26 January 2009 3:38:24 pm Alfred Perlstein wrote: : > > There's no way to conditionally include them based on if : > > ISA is present? : > : > No, but I dare you to show me a box with ISA expansion slots that you plan to : > run 8.0 on. :) Or rather, I dare you to show me _enough_ of said boxes to : > where removing these hints from the default set will inconvenience more users : > than the folks having their ethernet come up as le1 in vmware guests. :) : : I agree with you, I was just wondering if it was just a matter of : a few lines of code somehow so that some enthusiast who wants to play : with FreeBSD on some old piece of junk doesn't get some cryptic : error that sort of reduces them to "toggling in load.conf tunables : at the console". :) They'll get nothing. Warner