From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 20 08:38:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA08042 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 08:38:16 -0700 Received: from etinc.com (etinc-gw.new-york.net [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA08037 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 08:38:11 -0700 Received: from trumpet.etnet.com (trumpet.etnet.com [129.45.17.35]) by etinc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01261; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:53:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:53:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199510201553.LAA01261@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Terry Lambert From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Bragging rights.. Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> > There is the small issue of what the telco charges . It costs me about >> > $100/month to keep my 128kb ISDN Line up for the whole month and that >> > includes my ISP v-site.net . >> > >> > So what do the telcos usually charge for a fraction of a T1? >> >> In the order of $500 depending how far away you are from your isp's >> POP, plus another $1200 to $1600 to pay the provider (we're talking >> 128kbps fractional t1.) Some telcos charge you for a full t1 even >> if you only use a fraction of it. >> >> To bad I can't get ISDN at home for my FreeBSD machine =( =(. >> (complain complain U.S. West) > >You don't want ISDN anyway. In most US West areas (yes, we know you >have it better than the rest of us, Colorado!) they charge message >unit charges over a certain usage limit, with tarrif provisions for >reducing that usage limit to 0 at their option at some future date. > >This is done with the rationale that you are tying up switching >equipment, which you wouldn't be tying up if you were using Frame >Relay (packet switched) instead of ISDN (circuit switched) in the >first place. > >The Telco's are hedging their bets, since they want to be able to >meter your usage in the future (an unrealistic goal for Frame Relay), >and so are really, really pushing ISDN. > The telcos also have a significant advantage with ISDN, because they're the only ones who spent the billions necessary to "tool up". With a private line or frame relay, there is much competition. They'll operate ISDN at a loss for a while, but don't count on it forever. I wouldn't invest too much in ISDN equipment that may get thrown away. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25