From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 18:11:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C41914A67E6 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x735.google.com (mail-qk1-x735.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::735]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 578996C114 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x735.google.com with SMTP id 68so8540541qke.9 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:11:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6FakHK+/Pv+L/VGSjbGy9a5kdHlVh9hAB2ISTZqLWNw=; b=NJhM1SrOElk8C3GJApPNhGjEUuYq86nZcZ6GLq/wqCLyHvOVrSK+2rpWlLrUNRfyDP p+gMWiYqMAvBYjFTSrZxoAPDukCpLmfkQcK2UuiC42+x/Uv42V83HTkm64wL+4L+EYlh SukxFzaMm5vQIbJrwyRk5OS+2fxXF2387cWIrgEvidcS6D7vSaUDHNeynbymhuEMJqDw iXKaGzdjDnGeFn3HkzJEsJx72OI7L82YhqqQZzdT3udDMk72rzY994sLvH94mtUmEHO4 HQaIarHRvtMyuSbrEmx7hRaJcLVEh90bLo0F/7eN1cSpm4UDNkNq8EzpfYDUBL5OFTic okzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6FakHK+/Pv+L/VGSjbGy9a5kdHlVh9hAB2ISTZqLWNw=; b=DE82ofI5h67opwYmvCtiFTw6R5Oo1e3chfENQUPMZ8H441KalH8yERYeel8GIP35e7 EPEDkSHytJvHsF6zt6pn2sUPN8kn7egSQk6xDGYhlYBb8qHmYWid5kly0J/6uitb8eLi sEIlj/i7j6NzNflXUJP13pvOVdBfgO2q9a0FoDC10tCXtSoVMNtLs9+oTNUn6GiHtcP+ 4PXZXhm+8s/+yrL8bKDn/bn83QuikLuzQOvYNQjzIeBaUkk7gwlP90QJ0k5jPfjMtJhr Gcq2P23ZMUXOk3V7r+h1JM2TMzdwGXr/S3SBnsp/wl7tsUB9Pn1U+po1gPkszWFncK7P HbcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdjgFHzG/Mk+/Ul8FoX6tE/yEm1Tn+zadEWHFsf6nWOZfDEEQzY BbAgQtoU2qBWUYNNAUXnGaJ7eRBQCdFOeo6DqWenNZChJkA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5roc0ZNVWsAde7OcxwStz9DkrJoTlGOdscJSxJ7i8/xam4xnS3x0RQbBXo6p08vCFwQZjCsrlKel1MSaCEeAE= X-Received: by 2002:a37:6e86:: with SMTP id j128mr16533114qkc.46.1547835116417; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:11:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:11:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Meeting notes from the graphics group for 2019-01-02 and 2019-01-16 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 578996C114 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=NJhM1SrO X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-x11@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.71)[ip: (-9.27), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.37), asn: 15169(-1.82), country: US(-0.08)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: ALT1.aspmx.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.941,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:11:58 -0000 Here's the meeting notes from the last two meetings the graphics group has had. Sorry this has taken me a while to get out. Warner 2019-01-16: Agenda - Bumping LLVM version in mesa - Supposed to happens start of January, but has been delayed. - Plan is to push the custom version for this quarterly branch and then migrate to the normal infrastructure quarter. This plan allows us to = roll back if there=E2=80=99s something crazy currently-unknown problem. - Input stack - Giant patch merged before new years. - Latest version of libinput is 1.12.5, we have 1.12.4 in development repo. Niclas will update to 1.12.5, though it=E2=80=99s not as urgent= as prior updates. - Libudev-devd patches plus patches for epoll-shim library. We=E2=80=99= ll need to update these to the latest snapshots. Niclas cutting releases instead of having a dated snapshot. - Niclas started working on meson build infrastructure to get to know it, starting with the above items. - Some discussions on mailing list with sway and wayland wrt input stack. It seems to be working great. Easier to configure in sway than in X. - Pete to make a quick blog post on setup to try to get people using his setup for sway and our input stack. - Add sysctls with device info for /dev/input/* stuff: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D18694 - Sway - Seems to be mostly working now. - There=E2=80=99s some rough edges with the beta, but it=E2=80=99s in a= good, usable state. - Unsure if the crashes are due to FreeBSD specific issues, or if it=E2= =80=99s generic. - Worst problems around X11 - Wayland apps. - Pete will test jan=E2=80=99s weston branch and gnome3 backends that u= se wayland rendering. - Weston branch: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/myfreeweb/weston.git - Deorbit legacy drm from base - Warner to produce a phab review by Jan 21st - Quarterly report - Due at the end of January - Should update the outline before we turn the outline into human readable form - Drm kmod progress update - Johannes Lundberg working on 4.20 last we heard. Changes required in base to get it running. Matt Macy still had the changes for 4.18 in flight, and then he=E2=80=99ll do more changes for 4.20. - Depending on timing and size of 4.20 changes, we may do a 4.18 exp first as a stepping stone to get to 4.20. 4.16 has some stability iss= ues that 4.18 addresses. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D18041 - Plan is to get 4.20 running as the experimental branch soon. It=E2=80= =99s the first version with good big endian PowerPC support. - Mesa 18.3 - Niclas will update the repo so that packages are easier to build - Good to get done soon - arm/arm64 - Good progress on drm by manu@ on arm64. Can run xorg server - manu@ hopes to have something working on pinebook before fosdem - Once driver is stable, they can cleanup code for release and integrate into the tree. - Documentation - Ping form Ed Maste. Coop students had trouble installing the new drm stuff following the instructions in the handbook. - There was a phab review that started to update things - Will loop in bsddocs people as well as Ed=E2=80=99s coop students Attended: Niclas Zeising (zeising@) Johannes Dietrich Warner Losh (imp@) Pete Wright Manu Vadot (manu@) 2019-01-02: Agenda - Bumping LLVM version in mesa - Will do local version and try to merge to quarterly branch. Next quarter we=E2=80=99ll use infrastructure version unless there=E2=80= =99s issues. - Input stack - Deferred until next meeting - Deorbit legacy drm in base - Warner to send mail Jan 3rd to x11 proposing a Feb 1 removal of the =E2=80=9Ceasy=E2=80=9D stuff - Feb 1: remove dev/drm and the parts of dev/drm2 not used by arm. Remove module makefiles entirely. - Sway - Deferred until next meeting - Quarterly report - Will work on over the next few days - Mesa 18.3 - Would like to see AMD system testing, will be a few days before we can do it - Otherwise deferred until next meeting. Attended: Niclas Zeising (zeising@) Warner Losh (imp@)