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Date:      Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:37:33 -0700 (PDT)
From:      <unknown@riverstyx.net>
To:        John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What's wrong with GPL? (was Re: Jordan the Confused)
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904160236530.1984-100000@hades.riverstyx.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904160213480.1108-100000@hades.riverstyx.net>

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After rereading the GPL from this slightly different perspective, I wish
to change my position :-) The GPL is pretty borg-like.  I'm now anti-GPL.  
I hadn't realised how many rights you end up giving up with that thing
attached to your software...  Lordy.

---
tani hosokawa
river styx internet


On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 unknown@riverstyx.net wrote:

> I'm not saying that GPL is suited for everything.  Obviously, it's not.
> Tax software comes to mind immediately... wouldn't be much point in
> compiling all that data and writing code to handle each year's taxation if
> anyone could come in and capitalize on your efforts any time the liked.
> However, for some purposes GPL is perfect.  It seems to work great for
> operating system development...
> 
> And your driver analogy is flawed.  I'm pretty sure that driver's have
> already proven to be separate programs.  So if you port a driver to your
> own personal OS, then you have to release your new driver code, but you
> shouldn't have to release your OS source.  I'm positive that there are
> Linux drivers that don't have available source code.  I use a closed
> source X server for my i870 card for example.
> 
> ---
> tani hosokawa
> river styx internet
> 
> 
> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, John Baldwin wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On 16-Apr-99 unknown@riverstyx.net wrote:
> > > But in regards to the GPL, it seems like a fairly innocuous kinda thing.
> > > I write some software, declare it to be GPL'd, and thus guaranteeing that
> > > the source code shall remain available.  It doesn't really limit me all
> > > that much.  And if I write a new version, I can opt to not release it
> > > under the GPL, freeing me from its burdens should I decide that I want to
> > > go commercial with it.
> > 
> > Actually, (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but if you release version 1.0
> > under GPL, and use any of the 1.0 code in version 2.0 that you try to sell w/o
> > the source, then anyone can sue you for the source code to version 2.0 because
> > it would be a derivative of 1.0 and by the GPL that means the source to 2.0
> > would have to be GPL'd and thus freely available, which prevents you from
> > selling it, for all intents and purposes.  It gets much worse when you have a
> > large propietary product, such as your own OS specific to your application,
> > and you want to add drivers for a newer network card.  You wouldn't be able to
> > use GPL'd code because you would screw yourself.  You'd have to release the
> > source code to your propietary OS, which your competitors would gladly take
> > from you and sink you.  OTOH, such a company can safely use BSL'd code without
> > worrying about having to release the source to their competitors.  And let's
> > face it, not all software is going to be free, we do have to eat somehow.  So
> > we can't kill all possibility of selling software.
> > 
> > > ---
> > > tani hosokawa
> > > river styx internet
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/
> > PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc
> > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!"  -  http://www.freebsd.org
> > 
> 
> 
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