From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 23:01:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11982787; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8468B40; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qkhg7 with SMTP id g7so3112125qkh.2; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:01:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XQ+pcWsqrcUvK+ZlQYuay64xzSBgr2GTKqaRFRQh/qA=; b=ffZ+rtE85GRRB7dLz84gT++Vn0q2qAsA3SH5GtBhq7hbDaZja3JyfTA0CZ7ZiftVgO lCeYFhPAg2LUrtBeo37p+j+UuDUJf0MJtMtBS4gsoPdr/d7aBIMBB8zT1ZC60DH65LRJ 2Mp6JgpdzK5fbbZtsNFGuA37VtrJpITeuyGR8OpnihpTJwuxlSh49RNbO/9kl9Pf+AB/ 2mYgvty9EBK9/OKhpcNBu/A1GJF73Bnu+o+HiZsg7tgACTJJ+23pqVt7s4wA5cnC9wCI w1T4qUXKeVhk0mShjTNN96LegyJBP6cFlz2Vre7+ZLeG9QMihpmZ6wGJ2nom2RTsJK7q NyYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.234.2 with SMTP id f2mr3198549qhc.54.1428620501903; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.98.66 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:01:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150409224714.GD96636@FreeBSD.org> References: <20150406082553.GW64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406084141.GK23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406084937.GX64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406085323.GL23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409215802.GY21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409221632.GB96636@FreeBSD.org> <20150409222557.GR8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409222833.GC96636@FreeBSD.org> <20150409223703.GS8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409224714.GD96636@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:01:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc From: NGie Cooper To: Gleb Smirnoff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , Dmitry Marakasov , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , Slawa Olhovchenkov X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 23:01:43 -0000 Seems like a couple things need to be done: 1. The change might (imply optional) need to be reverted to avoid violating POLA. 2. All of the applications with Unicode issues need bugs filed for them and need to be fixed. Documentation should be added in the Handbook or somewhere else to advise users of Unicode issues with applications. 3. If UTF-8 was turned off in 1., it should be turned back on once enough enough is fixed that basic functionality talks UTF-8 well. If nvi is a stopgap, providing an alternative might be "good enough" for folks to use UTF-8 profiles (vim for instance).