From owner-cvs-all Sat Jan 13 17:16: 9 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B0937B404; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f0E1FBU36854; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:15:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:15:11 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200101140115.f0E1FBU36854@earth.backplane.com> To: Peter Wemm Cc: Doug Barton , Mark Murray , Robert Watson , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc crontab rc src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/mtree BSD.root.dist src/libexec Makefile src/libexec/save-entropy Makefile save-entropy.sh References: <200101140026.f0E0QEQ86706@mobile.wemm.org> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Did you hack up your custom kernel config to add 'options DEVRANDOM'? :Obviously you found out about that option somehow, so the same process :should lead you to the NOBLOCKRANDOM option. : :Cheers, :-Peter DEVRANDOM is as broken as everything else. It doesn't make the pain disappear if it isn't there. Does it stop the cron job from starting up? No. Is it sufficient to test -w for DEVRANDOM-config'd kernels in /etc/rc? No. Does it prevent the save-entropy script from running? No. So much for DEVRANDOM! The /dev/random commits have created problem after problem, incrementally and in whole. And unncessarily. One sysctl is all it would have taken to test for their enablement in the scripts, and one sysctl is all it would take to have an opt-in rc.conf variable to turn it on. It hasn't happened yet. What I am asking for here is reasonable: Cleanup this stuff so it is entirely opt-in for the developers, based on an rc.conf variable which defaults to off. It can't be that difficult. -Matt :-- :Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au :"All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message