From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 28 17:47:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA5E15783 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17062; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:47:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd017006; Tue Sep 28 17:47:12 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16032; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:47:10 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199909290047.RAA16032@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups To: brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:47:09 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, alk@pobox.com, gary@eyelab.psy.msu.edu, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990928184147.047569c0@localhost> from "Brett Glass" at Sep 28, 99 06:42:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > I was dubious; I waited more than a year after hearing about the DUL > > > to implement it. But when I finally tried it, I found that it was > > > highly effective; it targeted spam like a laser and rejected no > > > legitimate traffic. > > > >That you are aware of, in your less-complicated-than-an-ISP setup. > > We are actually more sophisticated than many for-profit ISPs. Sophistication != Complexity. Many ISPs have complex setups, which preclude simply implementing the draconian measures you advocate implementing "across the board". For many ISPs, there is no "across the board", or the number of service classes is so large that you can not easily divide all of the machines into a role per service class. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message