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Date:      Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:21:09 +0100
From:      Dirk Engling <erdgeist@erdgeist.org>
To:        Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Peter Toth <peter.toth198@gmail.com>
Cc:        jail@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: preferred jail management tool
Message-ID:  <54C80145.3070201@erdgeist.org>
In-Reply-To: <54C7FF2D.2070802@quip.cz>
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On 27.01.15 22:12, Miroslav Lachman wrote:

> Yes. Sometimes I have a feeling that jails or some other features are
> unwanted children. I had PR opened for years with patche to rc.d/jail or
> etc/rc.subr to incorporate nice, or cpuset. And it never found it's way
> to the tree.

How's that possible?

I felt similarly frustrated when I went to 2013's BSDCan trying to talk
to the "jaily people" and noone was around. Jamie couldn't attend but
said that he's busy with other stuff and couldn't commit time to jail
development. Which, of course, is fine. It leaves a void, though.

What good are features that are neither documented nor exposed to the
users? How do we move on from here and get config and docs synchronized
and where can I get a big picture of what's the big plan for the future?

  erdgeist



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