From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:29:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-188.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126E437B43D for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f73DTVT72586 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:29:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:29:31 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803092931.E71845@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from owner-freebsd-stable-digest@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:03:00AM -0700 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From two separate posts [I get this in digest form] > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:31:41 +0100 > From: Andrew Boothman > Subject: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? ... > What with the recent security advisories on telnetd and also > OpenSSH, I decided to upgrade my nat/ipfw/squid box from > 4.3-RELEASE to RELENG_4_3. > This all went according to plan, and I am now the proud owner of a > slightly more secure box. > My only surprise was that, a "uname -r" still reports the OS > version as being 4.3-RELEASE. I guess, in a way, this still is > 4.3-RELEASE since it has had no other changes apart from a few > security patches. But, to me, this violates the idea that a > -RELEASE is a snapshot of a development branch. Because, you can > cvsup with tag=RELENG_4_3_RELEASE or tag=RELENG_4_3 and get two > (slightly) different sets of sources, both of which claim to be > the definitive 4.3-RELEASE. > Further, in my case, the RELENG_4_3 world was made on a different > box, and then exported to and installed on my gateway box, which > doesn't have any sources on it. How can I tell that the box is > running the patched 4.3-RELEASE and not the 'original' 4.3-RELEASE > as the sources are not available? > > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like > FreeBSD 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? .... You could use the exact same nomeclature obliquely refered to in UPDATING. RELEASE-4.3.0p9 All the 9 patches are documented in UPDATING. All are just patches to existing programs - and as I see it doesn't need the name changed at all, except maybe a patchlevel appeneded as suggested in notes. Any name change implies something more than a patch. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message